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#702 of 745 One other thing...
by fowler3
Dec 03, 2012 (7:01 pm)
The test I would really like to see: what those glass roofs and the cars' interiors look like after a Texas thunderstorm with golf-ball size hail. Doesn't Korea have hailstorms?
#703 of 745 Re: Received the debit card letter and?? [selmam]
by deanb01
Dec 04, 2012 (11:49 am)
Great question about "refusing the debit card". Has the EPA or the US Government for that matter accepted Hyundai's mia culpa? Hyundai should be slapped with fines & penalties far beyond the debit cards, and each owner should get a piece of that too.
There are consumer class actions pending now with obviously more to follow. Other auto manufacturers should also sue Hyundai based on deceptive advertising to gain market share.
Hyundai sold 900,000 units based largely on false advertising. In the court of public opinion they violated terms of their parole from previous "misstatements" and bogus claims that are nothing less than fraud.
Obviously they want the debit card holders & bad press to disappear as quickly as possible. They will pay dearly, but little of that will go directly to Elantra owners.
#704 of 745 Re: Great MPG!! [knocker81]
by tcb74
Dec 09, 2012 (11:10 pm)
No thanks one Elantra is enough:) Try to fill up and reset your trip counter and then do the math when you fill up again. You might have a problem with the computer. 24 mpg. Combined sounds very low.
#705 of 745 Re: Great MPG!! [tcb74]
by knocker81
Dec 20, 2012 (4:48 am)
That's the only way I do it...can't rely on the computer. I've had the car a year now and it's a consistent 24 combined....just ridiculous!
#706 of 745 Buy the Elantra for the car, not the MPG and you'll be happy
by drew11m
Dec 30, 2012 (12:23 pm)
So, I bought the 2011 Elantra Limited because I got sold mainly on the mileage. The car was nicely equipped and a really good price, but i never was fully satisfied because of the mpg issue. I ended up averaging 30mpg overall with a 60/40 highway/city mix over 18000 miles (I should be getting about $75 back once my reimbursement clears). Which compared to some is still pretty darn good.
If i had bought the Elantra because I just really loved the car, I'd still own it today probably. But my main reason was the mpg, and I stupidly couldnt get over it like a bad breakup. So I ended up trading it in for a 2012 Jetta TDI with a stick shift. In which i average 39.9 in the same mix over 13500 miles.
If you are considering an Elantra, look at the cost benefits, the value for the money and the styling, and consider the mpg numbers as another feature, and you'll probably never second guess your choice like i did (plus i went from stick for 10 years to an automatic, and just missed having a manual, so that was another factor for tradein).
#707 of 745 Re: This Sucks [kevperro3]
by roadscholar3
Jan 25, 2013 (2:51 am)
I agree. I'm sure a lot of people who have been making noise about this issue are feeling vindicated but NOT compensated.
I think they are trying to escape a massive lawsuit that would be much more money. I think it's pretty clear the U.S. government looked the other way, perhaps to give them a foothold in the market here (jobs, etc. being the payoff). And now that the mileage problem has gone from a few disgruntled customers to a collective roar they are doing a minimal 'fix' and lying about how it happened and getting a little slap on the wrist from the government. Not only have people lost faith in Hyundai, but also for the authority of the EPA. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this whole thing was planned and pre-calculated into their profit numbers from the get-go....better known as 'the cost of doing business'.
Their legal solution doesn't come close to compensating for BOTH past and future losses due to owning a much less gas efficient car than was stated. They have lost me as a future customer but I still will be living with this less gas efficient vehicle for several more years. There ought to be something worked out for those wanting to unload their Hyundai or KIA.
I want out of this contract so I can purchase a PRIUS.
Just saw this article about Hyundai/KIA compensation today -
http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/hyundai-and-kia-to-compensate-consumers-for-over- stating-mileage-claims.html
#708 of 745 Damn Skippy
by eweiner
Jan 25, 2013 (6:17 am)
Cant tell you how many jerks here and on other sites were so totally convinced that the poor mileage was due to improper driving.
Hyundai's admission shut them up quick.
Hyundai has still understated the issue. I rarely get the combined EPA milage on my Elantra even when a lot of my miles are highway.
#709 of 745 Re: This Sucks [roadscholar3]
by backy
Jan 25, 2013 (7:44 am)
I think it's pretty clear the U.S. government looked the other way, perhaps to give them a foothold in the market here (jobs, etc. being the payoff).
Ridiculous. Even if the U.S. government wanted to pay off an automaker to add jobs, why select a foreign automaker that already had two factories in the U.S. with no near-term plans to add another?
It's comments like that that make it difficult to take complaints about FE seriously. Those kind of comments only bring down those from people who have legitimate complaints, e.g. due to a defect in their car.
And if you wanted the FE of a hybrid like the Prius... you should have purchased a hybrid in the first place.
Jan 25, 2013 (12:24 pm)
these people compaining about FE are tiresome, at most. Give it a rest and enjoy your Hyundai/Kia motorcar.
And if you wanted the FE of a hybrid like the Prius... you should have purchased a hybrid in the first place.
Automakers are bought off...umm...I mean very, very slow to make automobiles that actually save consumers fuel cost money. Or electrical costs if you own an all-electric. It's just going to be a long haul. Most of us have realized this and have just been enjoying our rigs for the 2000-2013 era of making rigs that are about saving ghastly money. Let's face it, iluvmysephia1 calls gasoline "ghastly" for a reason...it's cost is absolutely ghastly.
#711 of 745 Re: Damn Skippy [eweiner]
by pflyer
Jan 26, 2013 (1:17 pm)
Last tank update:
2011 Elantra GLS Auto with 22650 miles.
Indicated mpg (dash display): 34.8/pumped refuel average 33.1 mpg
Average mph: 28 mph (mostly city driving)
Display seems to be consistently about 2 mpg "optimistic."
I could not be happier with my Elantra. It's roomier, quieter, more efficient and better looking (subjectively, I know) than my wife's 2010 Civic EX.
I would recommend this car to anyone and I have.
Question for eweiner: Is anyone else who disagrees with you or has had great mileage with their Elantra a "jerk?"
I applaud Hyundai for their fine automobile. They have done a superb job.
YMMV (literally)