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Hyundai Elantra, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback, Sedan
#696 of 745 Refuse debit card?
Dec 02, 2012 (5:40 pm)
Selmam: I don't know if there is another way. Probably not since they are not being truthful about any of it. Check with the dealer you bought it from. Hyundai sales in NC have dropped greatly. There is an Elantra GT I have been looking at, sitting in front of the showroom, for the past six weeks. The dealer won't budge on his $999 administration fee (pays the little lady in the back room to type up the bill of sale) and the $399 mud guards. They say they will give the buyer $500 when he signs the contract. What a bunch of nuts.
Dec 02, 2012 (9:36 pm)
Mine gets pretty close to the updated estimates but this is simply unacceptable behavior by ANY company.
There is no way they could have honestly made a mistake on how they test their cars. Not only is it a black-mark on the company but they should be punished with a tariff. This amounts to unfair trade practice, dishonesty in the marketplace and for me and my kids... it is my last Hyundai (after buying four). It is simply unacceptable for a company to lie to me and get away with it.
Goodbye Hyundai Kia... never again!
#698 of 745 Re: This Sucks [kevperro3]
Dec 03, 2012 (3:19 am)
Well said, or to put it another way, "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". Hyundai misstated horsepower on the 2002 Santa Fe. How do I know? I received their debit card settlement and warranty extension. Their US President at the time said; well...consumers don't purchase Hyundai's for performance anyway, or words to that effect. He got canned shortly thereafter. Now, a relatively new US President and a huge misstated MPG claim.
These guys got this down pat.
#699 of 745 Re: This Sucks [kevperro3]
Dec 03, 2012 (6:16 am)
There is no way they could have honestly made a mistake on how they test their cars.
The story is that they misinterpreted the EPA test procedures. Can anyone say that's not possible?
#700 of 745 Re: This Sucks [gman4911]
Dec 03, 2012 (7:57 am)
Anything is "possible". But, are the EPA test procedures new to these guys? Does the EPA change the test procedures that frequently? How many years practice in S. Korea on each years Kia & Hyundai new models will it take?
In the meantime, let's misstate the results of our testing misinterpretations, put competition at an unfair disadvantage and in doing so sell a few more thousand units.
Thanks to a few irratated owners they got busted with their hand in the cookie jar, simple as that.
#701 of 745 Great design, high tech electronics not enough?
Dec 03, 2012 (6:54 pm)
It's called gilding the lilly, going too far trying to make a great new car more fetching. Hyundai was so desperate to get new models into production and shipped, they threw something into the stew that didn't need to be added. Now, Hyundai and Kia dealers have padded prices in the extreme trying to make the models look unbeatable, Such nonsense as $399 mudflaps and $999 sales fees.
You want to see and hear what those cars are really like, listen carefully to the video reviews on YouTube.com, listen to how the doors crash when closed, the tin-like trunk lids and hoods. If they got 100 mpg I'm not sure I would buy one. The 40mpg they are touting is no big deal. Buy a used Honda Civic with 5-speed stick and drive it moderately fast, it will happily give you 40mpg. My 1994 Civic did.
#702 of 745 One other thing...
Dec 03, 2012 (7:01 pm)
The test I would really like to see: what those glass roofs and the cars' interiors look like after a Texas thunderstorm with golf-ball size hail. Doesn't Korea have hailstorms?
#703 of 745 Re: Received the debit card letter and?? [selmam]
Dec 04, 2012 (11:49 am)
Great question about "refusing the debit card". Has the EPA or the US Government for that matter accepted Hyundai's mia culpa? Hyundai should be slapped with fines & penalties far beyond the debit cards, and each owner should get a piece of that too.
There are consumer class actions pending now with obviously more to follow. Other auto manufacturers should also sue Hyundai based on deceptive advertising to gain market share.
Hyundai sold 900,000 units based largely on false advertising. In the court of public opinion they violated terms of their parole from previous "misstatements" and bogus claims that are nothing less than fraud.
Obviously they want the debit card holders & bad press to disappear as quickly as possible. They will pay dearly, but little of that will go directly to Elantra owners.
#704 of 745 Re: Great MPG!! [knocker81]
Dec 09, 2012 (11:10 pm)
No thanks one Elantra is enough:) Try to fill up and reset your trip counter and then do the math when you fill up again. You might have a problem with the computer. 24 mpg. Combined sounds very low.
#705 of 745 Re: Great MPG!! [tcb74]
Dec 20, 2012 (4:48 am)
That's the only way I do it...can't rely on the computer. I've had the car a year now and it's a consistent 24 combined....just ridiculous!