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Hyundai Elantra, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback, Sedan
#630 of 774 Re: Hyundai/Kia Penalties and more [dodgeman07]
Nov 04, 2012 (6:44 pm)
You should contact the Attorney General immediately to give them your evidence re how Hyundai/Kia lied, it could be important to their case.
For someone who doesn't own an Elantra or ANY Hyundai/Kia, you seem to be really upset about this.
About ten years ago, there was a class action suit against Hyundai re its overstating the horsepower on several 1996-2002 models, including the Elantra. The overstatement on the Elantra was 5 hp--135 vs. 140. I owned one of those cars. Hyundai said it was an honest mistake, and no fraud was ever proven (not sure it was ever charged). Hyundai offered on its own accord to compensate owners through extended warranties and roadside assistance coverage... which sounded pretty darn good to me.
But then the lawyers got involved. It took 2 years of legal wrangling, but finally there was a settlement that called for compensation in the form of prepaid debit cards good at various retailers and valued at $50 to $225, or shopping cards worth $100 to $325 good for parts or service at Hyundai dealerships. The size of the payment depended on the degree to which a vehicle's horsepower was inflated. Since it was only 5 hp for my Elantra, I got (I think) a $100 shopping card, which I used for parts/service on my car (I think my other choice was a $50 debit card). I would much rather have had what Hyundai originally offered: an extended warranty and roadside assistance. But I took the card and considered it free money, since my car had no less horsepower than the day I drove it off the dealer's lot, it had plenty of power (and for its time, purchased in 2000, it was near the top of the class in power), 5 hp would have made absolutely no difference to me in deciding to purchase the car, and it affected the car's resale value when I sold it a couple of years later by... zero (the buyer didn't even ask about horsepower; it never came up).
Go go ahead, Elantra owners, push for a fraud case and class action lawsuit. At the end, I have a feeling you won't be any better off for it.
Nov 04, 2012 (10:59 pm)
I had about 12k miles on my 2012 Elantra and never came close to 40mpg during a highway trip, and generally averaged 32mpg in my weekly commute to and from work. I ditched the car for the Mazda 3 Skyactiv and get between 37-41mpg in the same weekly drive. Currently at 11.5k miles with the Mazda. I try to drive a constant 70mph on the freeway unless coasting down a hill takes me faster. I log my mileage and gallons filled up at the pump in my logbook.
I never got more than 34mpg driving from the Bay Area to Sacramento in the elantra but I easily get 40mpg with my 3 Skyactiv driving the same way.
#633 of 774 Re: Hyundai/Kia Penalties and more [fowler3]
Nov 05, 2012 (7:09 am)
First, I think it is dumb for new car buyers to think they can achieve any new car mileages posted by the manufacturers. It just doesn't fit the real world results. Experienced buyers know, or their friends know, cars have to be broken in before real world mileage ratings are even close. It just doesn't work that way.
I completely disagree. The last three cars I have owned have all been spot on their EPA estimates, or better. (2002 Subaru Impreza 2005 Mazda6, 2013 Mazda CX-5)
Some cars, like the '12 Civic, have a reputation for doing better than their EPA estimates.
I have found that the new EPA ratings are actually pretty good and accurate for most vehicles.
#634 of 774 Re: Hyundai/Kia Penalties and more [fowler3]
Nov 05, 2012 (8:49 am)
The last two cars I'v owned (2006 Chevy Cobalt LS MT, 2012 Ford Focus SE DCT) have easily exceeded their EPA numbers from day one. Not sure what your high on.
#636 of 774 Re: Tip of the iceberg? [tenpin288]
by Kirstie@Edmunds HOST
Nov 05, 2012 (1:25 pm)
Wouldn't be surprised. There are a couple of models I've got on my radar and have reported on (internally), whose consumers are consistently reporting that they can't get anywhere near EPA estimates. We'll see if those correspond with any models that are investigated.
Nov 05, 2012 (2:54 pm)
A reporter would like to speak to Hyundai and Kia owners who agree or disagree with the latest controversy over MPG. If you own a Hyundai or a Kia and would like to speak to a reporter about your experience with your car's fuel economy, please send your daytime and evening contact info to predmunds.com no later than Tuesday, November 6, 2012 at 8 a.m. PT/11 a.m. ET.
Nov 07, 2012 (8:14 am)
I specifically bought this car for the gas mileage, 29/40 what a joke I only get 24 combined. I have a 2009 Corolla (27/35) that I gave to my son when I bought this peice of S____(fill in the blanks). I drive both cars the same. I fill up at the same station, the Corolla was getting 27 combined, at least it's in the ballpark. The problem might not be the highway driving its the city driving...lets face it I didn't buy this car the highway cruising, the sole reason was the city driving.
The gas pedal seems to be very stiff, I really have a hard time pressing it down. The eco button has no effect at all, I'm not even crazy about the ride. I have a hard time believing anyone getting low 30's city driving, when I do stictly city I barely get 22. I'm stuck with this car for another 2 years (3 yr lease) but can't wait to get rid of it. One positive ...it looks nice.
#639 of 774 Re: Just terrible [knocker81]
Nov 07, 2012 (9:19 am)
FYI, the computer MPG calculation is typically 2-4 MPGs too high so you might getting worse MPG than you realize.
Sounds like you just need to adjust your 'lead' foot. My previous car was a 96 Pathfinder. When I first got the Elantra, like you, I was pressing down on the accelerator too hard because I was accustomed to the amount of pressure needed for the Pathfinder. My first tank was averaging 24 MPG (computer calculated) until I read some tips on how to drive the Elantra. When accelerating, the 'experts' were recommending light pressure on the accelerator and not letting the tachometer get above 2250-2500 RPMs. You're wasting fuel if you allow the RPMs to go above that range.
Another tip is to coast as much as possible. When approaching a stop light, try to count to 5 or 10 before applying the brakes. If you can't do that, you're wasting fuel by driving too fast and/or following the cars in front of you too closely. After I made the adjustments, I was able to get my first tank to average 29 MPG (computer calculated). Now after 17 tanks, I am counting to 15 and 20 before applying the brakes and my overall average is 30 MPG (manually calculated), mostly city driving.