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Hyundai Elantra Real World MPG 2012

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#598 of 745 Told you so! by eweiner

Nov 03, 2012 (9:13 am)

I have been posting here since the beginning of the year that the Hyundai MPG estimates are simply wrong.
 
I have a 2012 elantra limited and I have only gotten as much as 39 miles to the gallon by driving for an extended period of time at an excessive highway speed of 65 mpg.
 
For the rest of my driving my MPG has only been 24. Not even 29 miles per gallon that Hyundai says I should get with city driving.
 
I feel completely ripped off by Hyundai having bought a car that I expected to get routine high mileage only to find out that it is an average car that only gets average mileage.
 
The compensation offered by Hyundai is quite frankly too low. It does not compensate me for any future miles post their announcement of having been wrong. This seems to me to be unfair as I still own the car and will continue to drive the car yet I will not get the mileage promised me and the mileage that drove my purchase decision.
 
I have driven my elantra for just about one year and I have kept track of every single tank that I have purchased. I can assure you that I have not come close to an average of even the low in number from Hyundai of 29 mpg city.
 
Hyundai owes me quite a bit more than the paltry amount of money they are offering to compensate me for their mistake their life.

#599 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy [m6user] by longo2

Nov 03, 2012 (9:43 am)

Replying to: m6user (Nov 03, 2012 9:14 am)
If you actually read the extensive "cleanmpg" test story earlier on in this thread you would know that what they did was a real "Highway" mpg test.
 
They ran a Chevy Cruze and a Hyundai Elantra through a day long highway trip on the west coast, with lots of curves, bends, dips, traffic, hills and heat.
 
Both cars got BETTER mpg's than the window sticker. However the Hyundai got even better mpg's than the Cruze.

#600 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy [longo2] by m6user

Nov 03, 2012 (10:00 am)

Replying to: longo2 (Nov 03, 2012 9:43 am)
If you actually read my post you would know that I didn't say it wasn't a REAL highway test. Anybody can get on a highway and give a car a "real highway test". I said it was not the actual hwy test criteria that the EPA uses. The EPA uses a very strict regimen which just going from point A to point B on a highway does not replicate even if it is hilly, curvy or hot out. I'm not saying the EPA test is anybody's "real world", I'm just saying that any hwy test that does not EXACTLY replicate the EPA criteria cannot be deemed the same.
 
And the fact that both cars got better than the window sticker means absolutely nothing because it wasn't the same exact test the EPA uses. If you run different tests, you may get different results....how shocking.

#601 of 745 Re: Told you so! [eweiner] by backy

Nov 03, 2012 (10:02 am)

Replying to: eweiner (Nov 03, 2012 9:13 am)
First, the EPA fuel economy estimates for the Elantra have now been confirmed by the EPA itself to be 28/38/32. Very close to Hyundai's original numbers. And you've been able to exceed the highway number in your driving.
 
Second, the EPA (and Hyundai's statements re fuel economy) are clear that "YMMV". So while the EPA overall estimate is 32 mpg, not everyone will be able to hit that number. Some will exceed it. You appear to be in the former category, based on your driving patterns.
 
Third, re compensation... you are being compensated for miles already driven, and miles you will drive as long as you own the car, plus 15 percent for your inconvenience. How is that unfair? What do you expect?
 
If the Elantra's EPA rating had been 28/38/32 mpg at the time of your purchase, would you have still purchased the car?
 
Since those numbers have now been validated by the EPA, it appears your issue now is more with the EPA and how they test cars, than with Hyundai.

#602 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy [m6user] by longo2

Nov 03, 2012 (10:10 am)

Replying to: m6user (Nov 03, 2012 10:00 am)
OK I went back and re-read your post and you are right, you didn't say "real" what you said was...there are highway tests and there are highway tests...thanks for clearing that up.
 
if anyone cares to follow up on a "real highway test" please read the whole story here..
 
http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43477

#603 of 745 Still Getting 33+ MPG Combined by pflyer

Nov 03, 2012 (11:59 am)

Haven't checked back in a while, but I have a 2011 Elantra GLS Automatic.
 
I am getting incredible mileage. Last two tanks were almost 34 mpg with an average speed both times of 31 mph.
 
As my car has "loosened" up (I have 19000 miles), the mileage has steadily improved.
 
I am the "cruise control" person, so YMMV.
 
The mpg calculator in the dash is about 2 mpg optimistic, but still...
 
I am sorry for those who are not getting near to what is on the Mulronney.
 
Now I find out Hyundai will pay me to fill up. Life is good. That should make my "effective" mpg even higher, with the free gas from the factory.
 
Except for hail damage (I live in DFW) which was not the car's fault, this has been a bullet-proof, well made and efficient car, one of the best I have ever owned.

#604 of 745 Further Clarification by pflyer

Nov 03, 2012 (12:04 pm)

Oh, that (almost) 34mpg was my own calculations from miles driven/gallons added.
 
The dash display was over 36 mpg.

#605 of 745 Re: Told you so! [backy] by eweiner

Nov 03, 2012 (12:45 pm)

Replying to: backy (Nov 03, 2012 10:02 am)
The EPA numbers are still wrong and do not accurately reflect real world driving with a Hyundai Elantra.
 
Second, there is a difference between your mileage may vary and your mileage will never be as stated.
 
From experience, I have learned that in order to get any kind of decent mileage out of the Hyundai you have to drive in excess of 55 mph consistently on a flat road and for a long duration of time.
 
This is not reasonable driving for the average consumer in America. Most commutes are not long highway drives.
 
As for compensation it remains to be seen what Hyundai will actually pay out. From previous posts it does not appear to be very much money at all and does not appear to compensate for any mileage past their announcement date i.e. future miles.

#606 of 745 Hmm by eweiner

Nov 03, 2012 (12:50 pm)

Wow. 2 tanks thats a huge data set.
 
My comments are based upon 39 tanks and 12k miles.
 
Why should anyone have to wait for 19,000 miles to appear on their car before the MPG is as stated.

#607 of 745 Re: Told you so! [eweiner] by backy

Nov 03, 2012 (1:25 pm)

Replying to: eweiner (Nov 03, 2012 12:45 pm)
The EPA numbers are still wrong and do not accurately reflect real world driving with a Hyundai Elantra.
 
You need to take up the wrong-ness of the EPA numbers and how they are calculated with the EPA. Hyundai has nothing to do with that.
 
You were able to exceed the EPA highway number for the Elantra 65 mph. That is real world highway driving for many people--if not for you.
 
As for your overall mpg, it all depends on how your overall driving compares to how the EPA calculates its estimates. It looks like your driving patterns don't match well to the EPA tests. Again, something to take up with the EPA, not Hyundai.
 
Here's the Hyundai web site that goes into detail on the reimbursement program for owners and former owners of Elantras etc.; note that future miles are in fact covered (as are past miles--even if someone already sold their car):
 
https://hyundaimpginfo.com/

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