Hyundai Elantra Real World MPG 2012

More information here;

http://hyundaimpginfo.com/

I won't have a chance to call them right away but did some simple calculations and figure I should get about $60.

Some articles are saying this is being refreshed every year, can anybody verify this?

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#589 of 745 press request by kirstie_h HOST

Nov 02, 2012 (8:57 am)

If you are a Hyundai or Kia owner and have a reaction to the company�s announcement today re: EPA fuel economy ratings, please email PR

edmunds.com today to talk with a reporter.

#590 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy [stevens5882] by backy

Nov 02, 2012 (9:13 am)

Replying to: stevens5882 (Nov 02, 2012 8:30 am)

How incredibly stupid.

This will cost Hyundai/Kia billions... in lost sales. Krafcik will lose his job over this... or should.

If it were Toyota or Honda, people would forget about it in a year or so. But Hyundai/Kia doesn't have that kind of loyalty.

Great opportunity for Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, and all the rest to pick up share from Hyundai/Kia.

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#591 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy [stevens5882] by rob_hyundai

Nov 02, 2012 (10:21 am)

Replying to: stevens5882 (Nov 02, 2012 8:30 am)

stevens5882, there will be a calculator up on the website this weekend: www.HyundaiMPGInfo.com.

Please check out this page for reimbursement details:
http://hyundaimpginfo.com/resources/details/hyundai-reimbursement-program-facts

"Current owners are advised to make one claim every calendar year, though they will be permitted to make more than one per year. They may also submit a second claim in a calendar year upon the sale of their subject vehicle. Former owners may make one claim (per vehicle)."

It's really at your convenience. Some owners may want to make a claim monthly.

#592 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy by cleanmpg

Nov 02, 2012 (1:48 pm)

Hi All:

While some complain, in my experience the vehicles that are falling the furthest behind their respective EPA ratings today include both the all-new 2013 Ford C-MAX hybrid and the 2013 Dodge Dart with the 1.4L engine. The Sonata, Elantra, and Accent can and do eat their EPA in far easier manner than those two in particular.

Having driven maybe 75 different fuel efficient vehicles within any number of segments this year alone all the while keeping very close tabs on the fuel economy including odometer offsets, aFCD offsets, temperature and wind compensations, and even elevation deltas, the 2013 Elantra GT in particular is one of the better offerings within the C-segment when it comes to ease of achieving yesterdays EPA let alone todays.

Not sure if Edmunds allows links as I just discovered this thread in a Google search?

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43477

I and a member of my team performed a head to head between a 2012 Elantra GLS with Auto and a 2012 Cruze Eco with Auto between San Diego, Death Valley, Las Vegas and back to San Diego. Nose to tail with drivers swapping cars and cars swapping positions every 50 or so miles showed the Elantra GLS achieving a higher percentage above its EPA than the Cruze ECO did.

I recently drove a 13 Elantra GT across the southwest to a fuel economy level that would scare the average Edmunds reader and I can only think of three vehicles that could best it out on the open road. The Passat TDI is one and that is the premiere Turbo Diesel in all of North America!

When I drive the vehicles available to me from the B, C and D-segment universe, the Elantra lineup always finishes ahead of the Focus, Cruze, Dart, Corolla, Jetta (even the diesel). Where it swaps positions (as in finishing 1, 2 or 3) is with the various 12 Civics (we all know about the poor interior in those

) and the Mazda3 with SKYACTIV. It sometimes finishes on top and sometimes in second or third depending on the topography and conditions but is always amongst the top three with the rest of the class falling far behind.

As for my experience and what do I do for a living? Test and review high fuel economy vehicles. Here is just a small sampling of the vehicles I have driven for tens to hundreds of miles in the past 14 days alone: The 2013 Sentra including 3 different trims, a stick and a number of CVTs, the 2013 Avalon Hybrid, the 2013 Jetta Hybrid of two different trims and I have a GS 450h that arrived in the drive yesterday afternoon.

While this may not have relevance to some, when it comes to fuel efficiency, the Elantra is at the top of a very short list of C-segment vehicles. If you are comparing EPA and MSRPs, the Elantra will always come out on top as well.

A restatement of an EPA rating is going to harm a company�s reputation but when you drive a Hyundai/Kia product and go drive a competitor at a similar price point, you will feel first hand where the value lies and the EPA is simply a number to be bested every time you turn the key.

Good Luck with whatever you currently own and drive.

Wayne Gerdes � Owner/Admin of CleanMPG.com

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#593 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy [stevens5882] by dodgeman07

Nov 02, 2012 (3:01 pm)

Replying to: stevens5882 (Nov 02, 2012 8:30 am)

Only $60? You must not have very many miles on the car. Some models are droppng 4mpg (sticker versus actual mileage). That's up to 10%.

Some owners will be entitled to hundreds of dollars if they are high mileage drivers. And that's on mileage already covered. If they still own the car it will continue to pile up.

#594 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy [cleanmpg] by backy

Nov 02, 2012 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: cleanmpg (Nov 02, 2012 1:48 pm)

Although this discussion is for MY 2012... was the Elantra GT you drove a manual or automatic? I have the GT with 6MT on my short list for my next car.

I've not had any problems meeting or exceeding EPA ratings on Elantras of any model year... even the uplifted ratings on current cars. But it's incomprehensible for a company like Hyundai, trying to build market share in a tough field, to make a mistake like this... assuming it was a mistake, as claimed.

#595 of 745 Re: Hyundai & Kia admit false fuel economy [backy] by aviboy97

Nov 03, 2012 (8:25 am)

Replying to: backy (Nov 02, 2012 9:13 am)

Great opportunity for Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, and all the rest to pick up share from Hyundai/Kia.

I agree that this is totally stupid, and I do not think this can be chalked up to accidental "human error". Sorry, I just don't buy it. I could understand if it were one car, but with several?

Employed by a competitor to the Elantra, I do know that we are ready to pounce when given the opportunity.

I do feel terrible for those who have expressed displeasure with the fuel economy of these Hyundai/Kia vehicles and now their observations have been confirmed by the company. It's just not right.

On the bright side, the Elantra is still rated pretty well at 38mpg highway, which still makes it competitive. But, I think the PR damage is pretty severe and will take a while to bounce back from.

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