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Hyundai Elantra, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback, Sedan
#375 of 774 Real World MPG at fuelly.com
Apr 06, 2012 (3:20 pm)
The website fuelly.com allows people to report and to track their mpgs. Unfortunately, I searched around at fuelly.com for the recent Hyundai claimed 40 mpg cars; the news is not good. I looked at 2011 models because the 2012 models don't have enough people reporting to be statistically significant. The average mpgs reported for the cars are:
33.3 - Sonata Hybrid
32.3 - Accent
32.0 - Veloster
30.4 - Elantra
Even worse, barely a single person averages the Hyundai hwy mpg or above.
You'd think the people going through the effort to track their mileage would generally be people who are driving conservatively. As the numbers show, even these people are not getting good numbers.
One could argue that "well all cars do worse than the EPA numbers." Not so. Among 40 mpg (or nearly so) cars that average better than the EPA Highway are: Volkswagen Golf TDI, Honda Insight and Honda CR-Z. In addition, cars average at or better than the EPA Combined are: Lexus CT200h, Smart ForTwo, Volkswagen Jetta TDI and Audi A3 TDI.
Do your own investigation at Hyundai at Fuelly
#376 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [gozoner]
Apr 06, 2012 (3:36 pm)
Quit comparing the results to hybrids and diesels. Compare to similar cars like the Focus, Cruze, Mazda3, etc. Nobody should expect to average the hwy EPA numbers. Who thought that one up? Look at the EPA combined and see if owners are reporting that kind of number.
#377 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [m6user]
Apr 06, 2012 (3:44 pm)
I compared near 40 mpg cars irrespective of technology. 40 mpg is 40 mpg. Do your own comparison.
#378 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [gozoner]
Apr 06, 2012 (4:00 pm)
No need to get snotty. I was just suggesting comparing it to it's peers rather than to different techs. Hybrids and diesels are so different than gassers that I thought it would be more meaningful. Do as you wish, I could care less.
#379 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [m6user]
Apr 06, 2012 (4:01 pm)
The Mazda3 is averaging 30.6 to the Elantra's 30.2. That's averaging ALL Mazda3 models, including the 2.5L engine with the rotten FE, yet it's averaging better MPGs than an Elantra lineup of 100% "40 MPG" engines.
Now, if you look at the details, some people with SkyActiv engines are reporting pretty low MPGs, around 25. But quite a few others are reporting over 35 MPG. Not very many Elantras are reporting over 35 MPG. In fact, I think 6 out of the 92 2011 Elantras (about 6.5%) reported north of 35 MPG, versus 9 of the 45 2012 Mazda3s (20%). If you want to go with 2012, 9 2012 Elantras reported north of 35 MPG, out of 114 ( about 8%).
#380 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [bpizzuti]
Apr 06, 2012 (4:44 pm)
Yes, the Mazda3 is kind of hazy as it can include one of 3 different engines for 2012 and, like you said, the 2.5L sucks gas. I'm pretty certain from looking at the entries that actually say they have a skyactive that the avg will be a fair amount higher than the avg it's at now.
Actually for all the buzz about the Elantra and it's mpg, 30.2 isn't all that bad considering all the different kinds of driving and conditions. There's probably a lot more people that do a lot of city driving than do mostly freeway. Just a guess on my part on that one though.
#381 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [m6user]
Apr 06, 2012 (5:00 pm)
I'm still convinced that a lack of low-end-torque is at the root of the problem, and people are probably being a little more generous with the throttle to compensate. I wonder if real-world the Veloster Turbo might actually get better mileage, given how generous it is on low-end torque?
#382 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [bpizzuti]
Apr 06, 2012 (5:53 pm)
Yes, the engine changed. In 2010 they used a 2.0L and changed to a 1.8L in the 2011 model going forward. HP went up but torque went down. May help to explain why the city MPG isn't resulting in happy campers. Have to press hard to get ooomph off the line.
Above is what I posted a week ago on this forum. I still think, as you do, there is something to it.
As far as the Veloster goes, I wouldn't expect any turbo model to get better mpg unless it is extremely babied and what fun would that be. I don't think the people buying the Veloster Turbo are necessarily looking for maximum mpg.
#383 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [bpizzuti]
Apr 06, 2012 (6:08 pm)
The root of the problem is that Hyundai didn't derate their EPA tests. If they had reported 27/30/35 the world would be raving about the stylish, feature-full, relatively inexpensive cars!
#384 of 774 Re: Real World MPG at fuelly.com [m6user]
Apr 06, 2012 (6:10 pm)
With a torque peak at 1750 RPM they'll probably baby the engine without even realizing it, all the while praising the gobs of torque.