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Hyundai Elantra, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Hatchback, Sedan
#214 of 745 Re: Lies = Less MPGs [knocker81]
Feb 08, 2012 (12:11 pm)
I also totally agree. i have 8700miles on my 2012 and continue to get 20-22mpg in all city driving, so much for the dealer statements that the mileage will get better as the mileage increases. I have owned 2003 and 2004 Elantras and got about the same. The all highway drives with cruise on can get 35-40mpg,but the average will quickly fall with stop and go city driving. I have been using the Eco mode all the time and decided to turn it off to see any changes. I have found that the city mpg has increased a few mpg 2-3 but i attribute this to my wife and her heavy foot. There is a marked difference in accerlation when it is off. I believe that when she drives she does not have to press down on the gas petal as hard thus the better mileage. Again how you drive does make a difference. I could not agree more with you as to the horrible suspension this car has. Here in New York City the pothole capital of the world, my teeth can rattle from the way this car handles any imperfection in the roads. There are times that i wonder if there are any shocks in this car. I have read that Hyundai improved the suspension on the 2012 after there where complaints on the 2011. They could not have done much. For those that drive in other states where the highways and roads are well maintained they may never notice this fault. Take this car to some poor maintained roads and see what i am talking about. This car has some serous cab rock and roll on those kind of roads.
#215 of 745 Re: Lies = Less MPGs [kirstie_h]
Feb 08, 2012 (1:09 pm)
AS I understand it Hyundai did not send the Elantra to the EPA for testing. They tested it themselves and sent the results to the EPA.
There is a recent court case by a women who took Honda to small claims court over exaggerated MPG claims. She won nearly 10K in damages.
#216 of 745 Re: Lies = Less MPGs [eweiner]
by kirstie_h HOST
Feb 08, 2012 (1:23 pm)
Well, see... that's part of my point. If you look at the class action proposed settlement, it's almost nothing. You're almost always better off pursuing some sort of remedy on your own, whether legal or by working with dealerships/manufacturers.
I believe the basis of her win was tied to her ability to prove, via documentation, that mileage decreased following the software update provided by Honda (which is what's happening with these vehicles). She may have "won," technically, but she won't get anything yet. The case was immediately appealed. It is widely believed that anything tied to "false advertising" won't be upheld, though the post-software update reduction in MPG probably will.
Don't get me wrong - I am not disputing anyone's claim that they're not getting expected MPGs, and I don't ride with anyone so I can't say whether it's a vehicle issue or a driving issue. Some people have reported getting close to the EPA numbers, others haven't. I can't tell you why that is.
#217 of 745 Re: My experience for what its worth (Devil in details) [eweiner]
Feb 09, 2012 (9:49 am)
Good post. Since people have such high expectations regarding their FE, it is often hard to tell if people have legitimate complaints or not. Thus it is critical that details be provided when discussing real world FE. Critical facts like how long have you owned the car, its mileage, type of driving done, real speeds driven, real amount of stop-and-go traffic driven, type fuel used, whether you are really trying to eco-mile (higher tire pressures, coasting to stoplights, etc.), etc. Seems like there are some posting here who expect to get 40 mpg driving 75 mph or higher on freeway; that ain't gonna happen! Or who expect 29 mpg driving in heavy city traffic with lots of stop lights/signs; that ain't gonna happen. Or those who have a lead foot and want to accelerate quickly all the time. People have to be realistic about what their car can do FE-wise, esp. in winter and with ethanol. And be honest about how they are driving (e.g., avg mph).
Feb 09, 2012 (10:28 pm)
Ahhh, back from Chicago again tonight and it feels good to be home. You might think this should be posted in the Toyota Camry threads so bear with me.
My last trip to Chicago (from Dubuque, Iowa) in January was in a Hyundai Elantra GLS (6-sp auto) and I averaged just under 35 mpg for the trip. 380 miles total which were mixed at about 90% Hwy and 10% City driving. I averaged around 68 mph on the Hwy.
This trip was on the same route with a bit less city driving in a Toyota Camry LE (6-sp auto) and I totaled 360 miles. My driving style was very similar. Both cars were full of fuel (within 1/2 gallon or so) at pick-up. Upon returning to the Dubuque area, I was running on fumes in the Elantra last month but the Camry had 1/4 tank left!
I'm sitting there thinking how great the Camry mileage was right? Well the Camry has an 18.5 gallon fuel tank and an EPA Hwy Rating of 32mpg. I burned about 13 gallons going 360 miles so: my estimated mileage was 27.7mpg! I burned about 11 gallons out of the Elantra's 12.8 gallon tank for 34.5 mpg. What a difference perception makes!
Maybe if the Elantra had a 20 gallon tank we wouldn't have so many complaints! But seriously folks, look at the percentage under EPA Hwy mileage I got in both vehicles. Even I'm surprised....
I'll report back after my March trip.
#219 of 745 Re: My experience for what its worth (Devil in details) [g2iowa]
Feb 10, 2012 (12:11 am)
Here is what I got on many tests on the highway for 2012 Elantra Auto: 60MPH = 40MPG; 65MPH=38MPG; 70MPH=35MPG; 75MPH=32MPG. Speed kills the FE.
#220 of 745 Re: My experience for what its worth (Devil in details) [yennhi2]
Feb 10, 2012 (6:00 am)
yennhi2, I can easily believe your numbers. In December my wife's Elantra got about 34 MPG on a 100 mile trip that included about 7 miles of suburban driving with the rest being highway. The highway driving was generally at 70-75MPH. And it was using winter-blend gas with 10% ethanol.
I've little doubt that if we were to knock 5 MPH off our speed we'd get better economy.
#221 of 745 Not lies... just my honest opinion.
Feb 10, 2012 (8:22 am)
The point to this whole dscussion is really about the city driving....when Hyundai claims 29 mpg city it should be close. I drive a approximately 50/50 city and highway. I should at least get the 29, not 25. All this talk about gas type, winter driving, time of day...maybe we should see if the grounhog will pop his head out early, maybe that will improve gas mileage. I'm starting to think I made a mistake with this car. Like I said in an earlier post I was driving a 2009 Corolla under the same conditions and getting 28-30. The ratings for Corolla are 27/35. The sole reason I bought this car was for gas mileage, and the more I drive it I'm realizing it's not for the ride.
My point about the class action suit isn't really about the money...it's about exposing the scam that Hyundai is running, first with the limited production of this car, where they don't seem to have any in stock, driving up the price where people are actually paying sticker or more. I feel like I've been had...only 34 mths left on the lease.
#222 of 745 Re: My experience for what its worth (Devil in details) [fushigi]
Feb 10, 2012 (11:58 am)
For the city FE, I really like it. The distance from my house to school is about 16 miles and it takes 35 minutes to ge there, it had about 25 traffic lights and 3 stop signs, my speed is about 40 to 45 MPH , the display show average speed is 25 to 26, no AC use, no highway/interstate. I always got 30 to 31 MPG at the Pump. For the same route with my 2009 Civic auto, I only got 28MPG. I am happy with the elantra city MPG, but not with the highway MPG. The speed for all the highway/interstate here is 70 MPH, with that speed the Elantra only got 35 MPG, but the Civic got 38 MPG.
#223 of 745 Re: My experience for what its worth (Devil in details) [yennhi2]
Feb 10, 2012 (12:33 pm)
If you're getting 30/31 then there's something wrong with mine.