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Nov 15, 2011 (1:20 pm)
I read recently about Mazda's future product plans. Don't remember where and so I don't have a link to post, but this is what it said,
fall of 2011, updated 2012 Mazda3 with Skyactiv
spring of 2012, all new 2013 CX-5
fall of 2012, all new 2013 Mazda6 with Shinari styling and full Skyactiv
c. summer to fall of 2013, all new 2014 Mazda3 with complete Skyactiv and the new styling...
And so we have about 2 years to wait for the all new Mazda3...
and it looks like the Mazda5 isn't all new until the 2015 or 2016 model year, although maybe they'll drop in a skyactiv engine before then?
#131 of 437 Re: 2014 [benjaminh]
Nov 15, 2011 (2:27 pm)
I still think they'll drop the SkyActiv-D into the Mazda5. It's a very low-risk move (low reward too, but that's fine for getting one's feet wet with something new).
I can't wait for 2014, I'm just waiting for the CX-5 reveal. if there's anything that turns me off (MPG too low, price too high, etc) then i guess I'll be test-driving a Mazda3 SkyActiv hatch soon. And lamenting the lack of climate control...
#132 of 437 Re: 2014 [bpizzuti]
Nov 15, 2011 (3:26 pm)
Below is cut from an email I received from Mazda. There is a live reveal tomorrow at the LA auto show.
"For over 50 years we've been obsessed with improving the way our cars look, the way they perform and the way they make you feel behind the wheel. That obsession has driven us to achieve the unheard of. Ultimate efficiency. Fuel economy and performance together. For those who’ve abandoned hope that they can find joy behind the wheel of a Compact Crossover SUV, we’ve built this vehicle for you. Mark your calendars on November 16, 2011, the Mazda CX-5 with revolutionary SKYACTIV® TECHNOLOGY will be revealed."
#133 of 437 Re: 2014 [m6user]
Nov 15, 2011 (4:50 pm)
Looking forward to it!
#134 of 437 Re: 2014 [m6user]
Nov 16, 2011 (6:35 am)
Yeah, I think Mazda says 9 AM Pacific or something. 2.5 hours to go.
#135 of 437 Re: 2014 [bpizzuti]
Nov 16, 2011 (7:10 am)
Auto Week has released the specs...155hp and 150tq 26/33mpg with 6-speed stick FWD.
I'm a bit concerned if this is true because the compression has been increased to 13:1 and it also has the 4-2-1 header system and there is no increase in power over the Mazda3 and the economy is drastically less.
#136 of 437 Re: 2014 [aviboy97]
Nov 16, 2011 (7:45 am)
Yeah..it's probably the same weight or a touch heavier, but still, I expected 35 MPG in FWD. Still, the autobox may end up more efficient than the stick, the 33 MPG was specifically with the stick. Automatics are usually MORE efficient these days. Sometimes they're as much as 2 MPG better on the highway, though it's usually more like 1.
If I get one I guess it won't be AWD. The Mazda3 will be $9.74 per day in gas. The CX-5 will be $11.21. $200 per month versus $230 or so per month. Not a huge difference, but I bet the CX-5 will be more expensive to buy as well. It's just so much better looking though.
#137 of 437 Re: 2014 [bpizzuti]
Nov 16, 2011 (8:10 am)
"Automatics are usually MORE efficient these days. Sometimes they're as much as 2 MPG better on the highway, though it's usually more like 1."
The above seems to be true as far as the EPA tests are concerned. That said, I've been following "Real-World MPG" posts from owners of a number of cars which have equal to or higher EPA numbers for the automatic transmissions; so far at least, not one Automatic model has been able to post MPG numbers as high as those of their Manual siblings. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this held true for the Mazda offerings with SkyActiv engines as well.
#138 of 437 Re: 2014 [shipo]
Nov 16, 2011 (8:20 am)
Ok now that they've been announced, we need threads for the 2013 Mazda CX-5. And the 2013 Ford Escape as well, since that, while also projected to get 33 MPG highway, is getting over 170 HP. Oops.
Unless we want to just continue hijacking the Mazda3 thread?
#139 of 437 Re: 2014 [bpizzuti]
Nov 16, 2011 (8:24 am)
One positive I did notice was 26mpg in the city is a pretty darn impressive