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#1 of 25 2012 Camry best options
Oct 18, 2011 (11:02 am)
I was looking for a new car, without a moonroof/sunroof. It seems that for a Camry, one is limited to only low trims (e.g. LE/SE) and blocked from taking the high trims with all options (fully loaded) unless the moonroof is included also.
I have noticed that the XLE Hybrid does NOT come with a moonroof. It does allow to add the Convinience Package and the basic Entune (no JBL) but anything else will enforce the moonroof package. Then I have realized that the difference (in MSRP at least) between a non hybrid XLE and a hybrid XLE with the above two options is about $2600. Yes, it does not have the moonroof (another $900) but I do not want a moonroof anyway.
Hence I was thinking to start this thread to see what others think. What is the best set of options for the money overall? It seems the difference between the base L model and the XLE hybrid with the two above packages is just $7000 (for which, a lot of additional features are included). It was noted that Toyota tries now to push buyers to buy the higher trims and indeed the different costs for base ones seems to me as getting less for the money.
Ford has a simple solution to the moonroof problem, it offers Moonroof Delete option for their Fusion. Not with Toyota. The cryptic "Special Order" comment if someone preffers different options than listed is not intended to order one that bypasses the restrictions on the various option packages and dependencies. Not sure what it means - was trying to ask Toyota to explain this though.
What do you think is the best configuration for the money? Looking at both MSRP and real cost (after discounts)?
#2 of 25 Re: 2012 Camry best options [camryhybrid12]
Oct 18, 2011 (6:57 pm)
I am looking at 2012 Camry XLE with convenience package. I really like SE model. However SE has no climate control. So I may have to go with XLE which comes with sunroof that I don't need. I like the convenience package as it has push start, security, back up camera and home link.
I am getting a quote of 23000 + Tax + title + tag + doc fee = $25400 (out the door price). Is this price good?
#3 of 25 Re: 2012 Camry best options [mogambo]
Oct 18, 2011 (7:14 pm)
Hi...I would have to say that if you are getting a 2012 Camry XLE (even with no options) for $23,000, that is a really good price. Everything I'm reading says that new 2012 Camrys are going for roughly MSRP which for this car is close to $26,000. You also mention the "Convenience Package"...is this included in the $23,000 price?
#4 of 25 Re: 2012 Camry best options [mogambo]
Oct 18, 2011 (8:10 pm)
I am also looking for Camry XLE with convenience package but I am getting very high price quotes.
Where are you located??
#5 of 25 Re: 2012 Camry best options [alexandy]
Oct 19, 2011 (12:44 pm)
23000 XLE without convenience package.
25,400 (out the door, with no options).
#6 of 25 Re: 2012 Camry best options [pb01234567890]
Oct 19, 2011 (12:45 pm)
23000 with no options XLE.
Out the door price (7% tax) : 25,400
#7 of 25 Re: 2012 Camry best options [mogambo]
Oct 19, 2011 (1:29 pm)
XLE no options for $23000 + tax is normal price in Atlana, GA area (eg zip 30301 ) per truecar price tool (10% off MSRP of $25530). But if you pay such money and you really HATE the moonroof, why not get the Hybrid XLE with Convinience and Entune packages? It will not have a moonroof and you will pay $27000 (9% off MSRP) + tax. That is about $4K more for the two option packages you want, without moonroof and a hybrid... !
Or if you want the XLE Hybrid without options in Atlanta GA, that will be $25800 + tax (9% off MSRP of $28205) or $2800 more than what you pay for XLE non hybrid. But the Hybrid has more features at the base than non hybrid, and you get it without the moonroof you hate... and.. its a hybrid!
#8 of 25 Is there any problem with the Moonroof
Oct 19, 2011 (1:28 pm)
Just out of curiosity is there any known problem with having a Moon roof in the car? or is it more like personal preference.
I am asking because I am also planning to buy a XLE 2012.
#9 of 25 Re: Is there any problem with the Moonroof [pb01234567890]
Oct 19, 2011 (1:55 pm)
You need to check yourself for how the moonroof fits you and if you really are going to use it all the time. The comercial pictures of a long gone era where a girl pops out of the moonroof is not what the law will allow you when driving these days... not to mention the moonroof does not open fully to allow you to pop your head and body out of the car. This is not a convertible.
I like the driver's seat raised to the highest position and I am not very tall.. 6 feet. But the moonroof takes off the space available and your head will touch it slightly or bump into it when the car hits bumps on the road.
Other problems are leaks and possible extra weight that you really do not need unless you are sure you will use it more than one or two times. I don't like the sun shining on me when I open the moonroof in the summer, nor the rain and snow leaking into the car in the winter. The moonroof used to be a novelty many years ago, and that is why they decided to include such based on old market research I guess. But even Ford now allows in their 2012 (not 2011 ) Fusion model to have a "moonroof delete" option, realizing that people may not like it. I suggest you do a google to search for problems on past Camry moonroof options as well as moonroof issues in general and decide for yourself.
VW 2012 Passat TDI includes moonroof if you want the auto transmision - DSG.. so the best option was for me the XLE Hybrid to which you can add the Convinience package (good value for alarm, backup camera, and to open your garage for $800 or so) and the Entune (have to play with the toy.. though its quite high priced at $1K and will have bugs I am sure but...).
Go for the XLE hybrid if you want...
#10 of 25 Re: Is there any problem with the Moonroof [camryhybrid12]
Oct 19, 2011 (2:03 pm)
Thanks for your detailed response, this helps a lot!!!