Last post on Oct 31, 2013 at 6:10 AM
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Ford Explorer, Ford Explorer Sport, Ford Explorer Sport Trac, Entertainment System, SUV
#59 of 88 Just normal for a Microsoft system
Feb 25, 2013 (5:08 pm)
A Windows ME system that is. In the last year I have driven four Ford Edges, an Explorer and a Mustang GT, so I've spent a lot of time with these systems.
Let's start with the worst, ignoring the tacky non-functional body kit and the 1980s automatic transmission the Mustang was OK, the engine was brilliant. The MyFord Touch was a disaster. We were listening to a book on my iPod, three times it decided I didn't have an iPod and chose some random other thing to play. The system reset on several occasions and sometimes wouldn't connect to Bluetooth or USB. Sometimes it also forgot about the satellite radio. We actually pulled over on I93 in NH to switch off the car and restart the 'entertainment'.
The later Edges and Explorer were better but shared common faults. The random disconnects and failures to recognize Bluetooth and USB were still present. The next thing we noticed and I don't remember noticing it on the Mustang, was the difference of opinion between the dash and the touch screen. The dash would deny I had a phone or iPod while the main display showed that I was streaming audio from my phone. How can you not be entertained by this late 90s behavior. Now if they fitted the Mustang gearbox to the Explorer it would be easy to think you were back in the past.
The most irritating thing is the slow startup. I have been an embedded systems engineer since the early 80s, I have done a variety of military and civil jobs. I have never had a project that took a second to start. In embedded software a second is a lifetime, in aircraft control systems if you can't restart in 1/50th of a second then you can't do the job. Each time I started the Explorer I'd poke and poke at the screen waiting for it to decide it was alive, the display was on already, then it would issue a startled group of beeps and apply all those ignored button presses. This really isn't good enough. Then there was the "did it find anything interesting" lottery, would I be listening to the real BBC world service on my phone or the fake one on satellite (the rest of the world gets much wider programming) or something from the iPod?
I could always get round the system eventually, except that once we had to pull over in the Mustang. But this really really isn't good enough.
I stopped using the bluetooth in the Explorer because of the wind noise problems. Nobody could understand me. But as far as that is concerned the Edges all appeared to be OK, it was only an Explorer issue for me.
The voice commands were worse than useless. Last week Jeremy CLarkson drove a Shelby Mustang with this calamity of a system and ended up yelling "will you shut up" at it. I think that was about the level of success I had too. I could not get it to voice dial anything, no method worked.
This system is garbage at present, somewhere there are a bunch of self satisfied little idiots who think they did an acceptable job. What planet are you people on? You need to spend a few hours in one of your own cars.
I must admit I know one of the Germans who did the BMW iDrive CCC system (after they ditched their Microsoft based version 1 - are you listening Ford?) and it was a bit opaque to use at first, but it came up fast and was reliable the one time I used it on a 5 series in 2004 or so. That uses VxWorks, the same operating system used on things like spy satellites, space probes, the Mars Rovers, commercial aircraft and bombs... all things that absolutely have to work. They switched to CIC which is based on another realtime operating system, QNX, in about 2008. I liked the Audi MMI too and can't ever remember having any problems with the Infiniti system, that just works.
PLEASE FORD, do something about this garbage!
#60 of 88 Apple 4s and GPS in ford sync explorer limited 2011
Feb 26, 2013 (5:33 pm)
I have been having issues with my gps when my 4s is connected via Bluetooth to the system. As soon as the phone is connected the GPS jams up, will not move as I drive, clock can eventually be off by a few hours as well. Ford said nothing was wrong with my gps after they did an update in October. I got in my vehicle, phone connected, GPS put me on Michigan way and us route 12. I live in sc and the map was in Michigan! Then they don't believe me that the GPS is not working, I brought it up for yet anothe update to find out I already had it, so more time wasted. Essentially can not use phone via Bluetooth and use navigation at the same time!! This sucks!! System gets touchy and blacks out, does system maint frequently too. Dealer told me it had to be an app on the phone, oh and I forgot to mention that I got another 4s and it was DOING THE SAME CRAP, so I removed apps...still did the same stuff...finally got pissed enough to call ford customer service and still got No help from amber I believe her name was, she was useless....I had apple on the phone trying to help and no one at ford could help since this chick was angling my case ad was no where to be found, another hour wasted, then when she emailed she stated that she would not be speaking with apple! So I finally blow up at the dealer, they take my car for a week and my phone for two days, they replicated the issues, replaced the apim, supposedly had an 4s that they were testing it with and everything worked. I get in it, doesn't work right off the bat, so I am on The phone with apple again...my phone is wiped, took otter box off as that was the only variable and still jamming up the system....I just did a master reset and will disconnect the battery too, but I am spent on trying to figure out if it is MY phone (have had two now). Very disappointed with ford, their customer service and EXCUSES, they really need to figure this out or I will not be leasing from them again. Why am I trying to fix this anyway? Shouldn't OC welch be doing this and making me a happy client?
#61 of 88 A ray of hope......
May 28, 2013 (1:05 pm)
I am the mostly proud owner of a new Ford F-150 Limited Pickup Truck. I have owned the vehicle for approximately one month. This is a new venture for me as it is the first American car I have ever purchased, and the first pickup. While this is quite the norm for many Americans, I have been driving Ultimate Driving Machines for most of the last 20 years. After too many flat tires and bent rims to count, I decided I was ready for a change. The truck is comfortable and looks great! The kids love the room it provides and being up high. I no longer spend my time in fear that the next pothole I hit will put me on the back of a flatbed. Shortly after bringing my new truck home, I started experiencing problems with the SYNC system not unlike those mentioned on the website. Connecting my iPhone 4S was hit or miss. Bluetooth Audio was also intermittent. The System froze regularly, GPS Position was off as was system time. The Service Advisor was friendly and courteous and asked me about the number of Contacts I store. I told him approximately 6500. He informed me that syncing so many contacts with the system often creates problems. He also mentioned that having location services turned ON for Google Maps can cause the GPS position to be incorrect. Together we DELETED my phone from both the SYNC system and the iPhone ('Forget this Device' under Bluetooth settings). We also went to the Location Services settings (under Privacy in the iPhones settings) and turned Google Maps location services to off. We re-synced the phone opting not to sync contacts. The good news, is that for now, everything is functioning as advertised. He smiled and informed me that this was not likley the last issue I would have, but for the moment I am pleased that after 3 Start/Stops things are working consistently. I will post again as things progress. I am hoping for the best....
#62 of 88 Re: Apple 4s and GPS in ford sync explorer limited 2011 [kmccann1]
May 30, 2013 (8:50 am)
Have you performed the Upgrades? There are several. Mine did the same initially, but every upgrade has made it better, and it's fine now. I also have a 4S.
#63 of 88 Re: 2013 ford explorer sync navigation problem [david_sulock]
Jun 08, 2013 (6:54 am)
I had the same problem. So far the fix has been to unconnect my phone from the vehicle and unconnect the vehicle from the phone. while the phone will now not work (the phone will but not though the vehicle), everything else works fine. We are still attempting to figure out why the phone is messing it up. I have an Iphone 4
#64 of 88 Re: 2013 ford explorer sync navigation problem [ksmith333]
Jun 17, 2013 (1:04 pm)
Had that issue initially - but the first or second upgrade (can't remember for sure) fixed that right up.
#65 of 88 Re: 2013 ford explorer sync navigation problem [nvbanker]
Jun 17, 2013 (1:34 pm)
Bummer as we have tried new "brains", new cards and so far nothing has worked so I just leave phone unhooked. Please let me know if you some up with something else that works
#66 of 88 Re: 2013 ford explorer sync navigation problem [ksmith333]
Jun 19, 2013 (2:57 pm)
On a 13, that's unacceptable, in my opinion..... Bluetooth is essential in my state - you can drive with an open bottle of Jack here, but if you talk on a phone with your hand, you get the chair! I'd have to give that car back, somehow....
#67 of 88 Still have problems on a 2013 Taurus
Jun 19, 2013 (4:03 pm)
I had a rented Taurus with 3,000 miles on it two weeks ago, it was delivered to Budget in May. It had all the bells and whistles but that still had problems. It lost the iPod when it was switched off for a few hours. I used it with Bluetooth Audio but it had to be re-selected each time I got in the car. The only way to fix it once was to literally pull over, switch off, get out, lock the doors, get back in and start again. Each time it lost the Bluetooth audio it reverted to AM radio. Often the central display didn't show Bluetooth as a source but the instrument panel display did, so you had to select Bluetooth on the steering wheel then change modes on the main panel so that it would finally catch on. This is still a poor system and isn't getting fixed very fast.
#68 of 88 Re: 2013 ford explorer sync navigation problem [nvbanker]
Jun 20, 2013 (9:50 am)
Thanks for the comments. I agree. Dealership is owned by a good friend so they are trying hard ot fix but getting nothing out of Ford so far. On idea so far is that some app I have on my phone gets updated and throws it out of "sync" pun intended. Frustrating