Last post on May 05, 2012 at 9:44 AM
You are in the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan
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Ford Fusion, Hyundai Sonata, Kia Optima
#27 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [targettuning]
Jan 27, 2012 (11:00 am)
Not enough? TURBO!!!! which are now a whole lot less troublesome than the 1986 Omni GLH turbo I once owned. What me worry???
I was once afflicted with a turbo from that era, as well. A 1988 Chrysler LeBaron turbo coupe which, actually, was a nice little car. It went downhill fast after around 90,000 miles. I gave it to my ex-wife when we divorced, and I think it was around 115,000 miles that the turbo finally died, and the cylinder head warped and blew the head gasket. In that car's defense, it did get stolen a few times, and I doubt the joyriders were very kind to it.
If I was going to get a new midsized car nowadays, I'd just go with the 4-cyl version as, like you said, most of them are more than fast enough. But still, I miss the effortless power of some of those bigger engines of days gone by.
#28 of 36 Re: Anyone have any info on what AWD system will be used in the '13 Fusion? [tgoodell]
Jan 28, 2012 (10:53 am)
The Acura MDX SH-AWD system implementation overdrives the rear diff'l input by ~7% so the when rear drive is engaged torque biasing will be at the rear.
But that, like the Ford F/awd system, is only a part-time "automatic" F/awd system, only engaged at times in which loss of front traction is most likely to be compromised. Under low speed acceleration, or in a low speed turn, and/or an accelerating turn.
Significant improvement but still no CIGAR.
#29 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [targettuning]
Jan 28, 2012 (11:09 am)
Well, keep in mind I believe the new Fusion is a bit heavier than your Sonata--and the Sonata 2.0 turbo pumps out 274HP against the Fusion's 237.
Not saying the new Fusion turbo is going to be a disappointment, but I'm not really sure how that little horsepower and torque is going to move a car that heavy. I really would've thought the former V6 Duratec would've been a terrific option for this car. I personally wouldn't walk away from 28-29 MPG in a car THAT good looking, and THAT sporty.
#31 of 36 Re: 2013 Fusion now out in the open [frenchguy007]
Apr 20, 2012 (4:58 am)
The real question, now that the Mercury Milan version of the Fusion no longer is sold, will be How Much the upcharge to reach the Lincoln MKS trim level, the ultimate Ford Fusion ? I always went for the Merc, never the Lincoln trim level. Also will the hybrid be available on the Lincoln as well.
#32 of 36 Re: 2013 Fusion now out in the open [new_yorker]
Apr 20, 2012 (8:26 am)
Yes, the hybrid MKZ will be available. The MKZ will have much more exclusive equipment than the Fusion in 2013 - electronically controlled suspension, push button gear selection, etc. I suspect a comparably equipped base MKZ will be about $6K more than a Titanium Fusion with the same engine but you'll get a lot more for that $6K than you do now.
And the only way to get a V6 is with the MKZ.
#33 of 36 2014 Fusion SHO
by j orb
May 04, 2012 (12:19 pm)
Would be great to see a SHO version with AWD, twin-turbo V6 and a 6 speed stick. Europe must have a petrol version that would drop right in.
#34 of 36 Re: 2014 Fusion SHO [j orb]
May 04, 2012 (12:35 pm)
Not yet but we know the 3.7L V6 fits since it's being offered in the MKZ. And if the rumor is true that the next Taurus will be built on a stretched version of the new platform then that means it was built to handle it.
Personally I think a 300 hp AWD 2.5L EB is more likely than the 3.5L but you never know.
#35 of 36 Re: 2014 Fusion SHO [j orb]
May 05, 2012 (9:45 am)
High POWER engines, FWD (F/awd SHO), and stick shifts only work well for race experienced drivers. Absent the engine being automatically derated in HP for low speed acceleration (as Cadillac did with FWD and the NorthStar engine) the majority of drivers would be headed for an early grave.
#36 of 36 Re: 2014 Fusion SHO [akirby]
May 05, 2012 (9:44 am)
"...300 hp AWD 2.5L EB...."
Only if the torque distribution under low speed acceleration, turning tightly, or acceleration into/through a turn, would result in something like a 20/80 F/R apportioning.
Even at that with a stick shift it had better be equipped with VW's new engine "up-rev" technique for safe downshifting.