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What is this discussion about? Ford Fusion, Hyundai Sonata, Kia Optima

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#20 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [tgoodell] by andre1969

Jan 25, 2012 (5:05 pm)

Replying to: tgoodell (Jan 25, 2012 3:38 pm)
Good question. 237HP and 250 some-odd foot/pounds of torque isn't very much for a mid-sized-bordering-on-full-sized sedan. I sure liked the performance and economy of the V6 in the current model Fusion and Taurus; this new motor kind of seems like a step backwards to me as a replacement
 
Unfortunately, I've heard that most midsized cars are going to be dropping their V-6 options in the near future, because of impending stricter fuel economy standards.
 
Plus, V-6 production is usually relatively low in this segment. Just out of curiosity, I checked a local dealer's website to see the inventory breakdown by engine for the 2012 Toyota Camry. They carry a lot of brands, but unfortunately, no Fords,so I couldn't use the Fusion as a reference.
 
Anyway, they had 160 Camrys in stock.
8 of them were hybrids (5%)
17 were V-6 (10.6%)
135 were 4-cyl (84.4%).
 
They do have 9 used Fusions in stock. 7 of them are 4-cyl, 2 are V-6.
 
So, alas, my guess is the V-6 is going the way of the dinosaur...in midsized cars, at least.

#21 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [andre1969] by tgoodell

Jan 25, 2012 (5:30 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 25, 2012 5:05 pm)
So, alas, my guess is the V-6 is going the way of the dinosaur...in midsized cars, at least.
 
Well, that does it; I guess we'll both have to buy an SHO

#22 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [tgoodell] by LASHAWN

Jan 26, 2012 (3:24 pm)

Replying to: tgoodell (Jan 25, 2012 5:30 pm)
Isn't this forum for the Hyundai Sonata and not the Ford Fusion.

#24 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [LASHAWN] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Jan 26, 2012 (3:28 pm)

Replying to: LASHAWN (Jan 26, 2012 3:24 pm)
This is a Fusion topic but the category lists the Sonata since it's one of the cars that's competing the Fusion. So someone searching for the Sonata (or Optima) may land here.

#25 of 36 Sonata or Fusion by puffin1

Jan 27, 2012 (8:39 am)

I see most Ford dealerships carrying the Hyundai cars,so are they linked in business?

#26 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [andre1969] by targettuning

Jan 27, 2012 (10:14 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 25, 2012 5:05 pm)
I wouldn't loose much sleep over the fact most are dropping the V-6 engines in mid sized cars. Modern 4 cylinder engines are more than up to the task. The Sonata nears 90 mph mid 16's in the 1/4 mile and neither the Accords or Camrys are "slow" either. I own a 2012 Sonata and lamented the dropping of the V-6 last year when the new 2011 Sonata came out UNTIL I drove one. They are quicker than many a V-8 from not too many years ago let alone a V-6. Not enough? TURBO!!!! which are now a whole lot less troublesome than the 1986 Omni GLH turbo I once owned. What me worry???

#27 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [targettuning] by andre1969

Jan 27, 2012 (12:00 pm)

Replying to: targettuning (Jan 27, 2012 10:14 am)
Not enough? TURBO!!!! which are now a whole lot less troublesome than the 1986 Omni GLH turbo I once owned. What me worry???
 
I was once afflicted with a turbo from that era, as well. A 1988 Chrysler LeBaron turbo coupe which, actually, was a nice little car. It went downhill fast after around 90,000 miles. I gave it to my ex-wife when we divorced, and I think it was around 115,000 miles that the turbo finally died, and the cylinder head warped and blew the head gasket. In that car's defense, it did get stolen a few times, and I doubt the joyriders were very kind to it.
 
If I was going to get a new midsized car nowadays, I'd just go with the 4-cyl version as, like you said, most of them are more than fast enough. But still, I miss the effortless power of some of those bigger engines of days gone by.

#28 of 36 Re: Anyone have any info on what AWD system will be used in the '13 Fusion? [tgoodell] by wwest

Jan 28, 2012 (11:53 am)

Replying to: tgoodell (Jan 25, 2012 3:46 pm)
The Acura MDX SH-AWD system implementation overdrives the rear diff'l input by ~7% so the when rear drive is engaged torque biasing will be at the rear.
 
But that, like the Ford F/awd system, is only a part-time "automatic" F/awd system, only engaged at times in which loss of front traction is most likely to be compromised. Under low speed acceleration, or in a low speed turn, and/or an accelerating turn.
 
Significant improvement but still no CIGAR.

#29 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [targettuning] by tgoodell

Jan 28, 2012 (12:09 pm)

Replying to: targettuning (Jan 27, 2012 10:14 am)
Well, keep in mind I believe the new Fusion is a bit heavier than your Sonata--and the Sonata 2.0 turbo pumps out 274HP against the Fusion's 237.
 
Not saying the new Fusion turbo is going to be a disappointment, but I'm not really sure how that little horsepower and torque is going to move a car that heavy. I really would've thought the former V6 Duratec would've been a terrific option for this car. I personally wouldn't walk away from 28-29 MPG in a car THAT good looking, and THAT sporty.

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