2013 Ford Fusion Spy Shots

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What is this discussion about? Ford Fusion, Hyundai Sonata, Kia Optima

#19 of 36 Anyone have any info on what AWD system will be used in the '13 Fusion? by tgoodell

Jan 25, 2012 (3:46 pm)

The Edmunds review states the Ecoboost 2.0 version of the 2013 Fusion will have an AWD system which (and I quote) "will be paired with a rear-biased all-wheel-drive system for enhanced handling capabilities...".
 
Funny thing is, they said the same exact thing about new Taurus SHO when it was first announced, but sadly, no such AWD system even existed at Ford at that time, and I'm skeptical that one exist now.
 
Would appreciate any info if anyone runs across some!

#20 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [tgoodell] by andre1969

Jan 25, 2012 (5:05 pm)

Replying to: tgoodell (Jan 25, 2012 3:38 pm)
Good question. 237HP and 250 some-odd foot/pounds of torque isn't very much for a mid-sized-bordering-on-full-sized sedan. I sure liked the performance and economy of the V6 in the current model Fusion and Taurus; this new motor kind of seems like a step backwards to me as a replacement
 
Unfortunately, I've heard that most midsized cars are going to be dropping their V-6 options in the near future, because of impending stricter fuel economy standards.
 
Plus, V-6 production is usually relatively low in this segment. Just out of curiosity, I checked a local dealer's website to see the inventory breakdown by engine for the 2012 Toyota Camry. They carry a lot of brands, but unfortunately, no Fords,so I couldn't use the Fusion as a reference.
 
Anyway, they had 160 Camrys in stock.
8 of them were hybrids (5%)
17 were V-6 (10.6%)
135 were 4-cyl (84.4%).
 
They do have 9 used Fusions in stock. 7 of them are 4-cyl, 2 are V-6.
 
So, alas, my guess is the V-6 is going the way of the dinosaur...in midsized cars, at least.

#21 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [andre1969] by tgoodell

Jan 25, 2012 (5:30 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 25, 2012 5:05 pm)
So, alas, my guess is the V-6 is going the way of the dinosaur...in midsized cars, at least.
 
Well, that does it; I guess we'll both have to buy an SHO

#22 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [tgoodell] by LASHAWN

Jan 26, 2012 (3:24 pm)

Replying to: tgoodell (Jan 25, 2012 5:30 pm)
Isn't this forum for the Hyundai Sonata and not the Ford Fusion.

#24 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [LASHAWN] by steve_ HOST

Jan 26, 2012 (3:28 pm)

Replying to: LASHAWN (Jan 26, 2012 3:24 pm)
This is a Fusion topic but the category lists the Sonata since it's one of the cars that's competing the Fusion. So someone searching for the Sonata (or Optima) may land here.

#25 of 36 Sonata or Fusion by puffin1

Jan 27, 2012 (8:39 am)

I see most Ford dealerships carrying the Hyundai cars,so are they linked in business?

#26 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [andre1969] by targettuning

Jan 27, 2012 (10:14 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 25, 2012 5:05 pm)
I wouldn't loose much sleep over the fact most are dropping the V-6 engines in mid sized cars. Modern 4 cylinder engines are more than up to the task. The Sonata nears 90 mph mid 16's in the 1/4 mile and neither the Accords or Camrys are "slow" either. I own a 2012 Sonata and lamented the dropping of the V-6 last year when the new 2011 Sonata came out UNTIL I drove one. They are quicker than many a V-8 from not too many years ago let alone a V-6. Not enough? TURBO!!!! which are now a whole lot less troublesome than the 1986 Omni GLH turbo I once owned. What me worry???

#27 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [targettuning] by andre1969

Jan 27, 2012 (12:00 pm)

Replying to: targettuning (Jan 27, 2012 10:14 am)
Not enough? TURBO!!!! which are now a whole lot less troublesome than the 1986 Omni GLH turbo I once owned. What me worry???
 
I was once afflicted with a turbo from that era, as well. A 1988 Chrysler LeBaron turbo coupe which, actually, was a nice little car. It went downhill fast after around 90,000 miles. I gave it to my ex-wife when we divorced, and I think it was around 115,000 miles that the turbo finally died, and the cylinder head warped and blew the head gasket. In that car's defense, it did get stolen a few times, and I doubt the joyriders were very kind to it.
 
If I was going to get a new midsized car nowadays, I'd just go with the 4-cyl version as, like you said, most of them are more than fast enough. But still, I miss the effortless power of some of those bigger engines of days gone by.

#28 of 36 Re: Anyone have any info on what AWD system will be used in the '13 Fusion? [tgoodell] by wwest

Jan 28, 2012 (11:53 am)

Replying to: tgoodell (Jan 25, 2012 3:46 pm)
The Acura MDX SH-AWD system implementation overdrives the rear diff'l input by ~7% so the when rear drive is engaged torque biasing will be at the rear.
 
But that, like the Ford F/awd system, is only a part-time "automatic" F/awd system, only engaged at times in which loss of front traction is most likely to be compromised. Under low speed acceleration, or in a low speed turn, and/or an accelerating turn.
 
Significant improvement but still no CIGAR.
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