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#13 of 36 Re: 2013 Fusion now out in the open [frenchguy007]
by andre1969
Jan 16, 2012 (1:38 pm)
Well we can now see the car in it's entirety. Ford has pic's on its web site. I like it, it does have a bit of jaguar to it, much more modern than the old model it replaces.
I just went to the Ford website and I gotta say, that an adjective came to my mind that isn't often used to describe mainstream midsized cars... "Sexy!"
I really like that pale silvery blue-green that the hybrid on the right is sporting. Reminds me of the light jadestone that my old '82 Cutlass Supreme coupe had.
I had been thinking about buying a new car in the spring, and was leaning toward something like an Altima, Fusion, or Accord. But, I might just have to wait until this new Fusion comes out, and give it a look!
#14 of 36 Re: 2013 Fusion now out in the open [andre1969]
by hpmctorque
Jan 17, 2012 (8:43 pm)
I just hope, for Ford's sake, that the light jadestone is the only similarity between the '82 Gutless and the '13 Fusion. Oh, wait, they both have round tires.
On another subject, what do you think of the '13 Dart, from the pictures you've seen and the descriptions? Do you think that Dodge will display the Dart at the Washington Auto Show?
#15 of 36 Re: 2013 Fusion now out in the open [hpmctorque]
by andre1969
Jan 18, 2012 (1:22 pm)
On another subject, what do you think of the '13 Dart, from the pictures you've seen and the descriptions? Do you think that Dodge will display the Dart at the Washington Auto Show?
I have mixed feelings about it. I think it looks good, up to about the B-pillar. But beyond that, it just has sort of a lumpy, awkward, egg-shaped look to it that I don't like. And the rump is too stubby. I do like the taillights, though.
But, maybe it'll grow on me after awhile. I'll be curious to see what the Dart is like, in person. I have a feeling it'll be too small for my tastes. I could see them showing the Dart at the DC auto show. They usually have a pretty good turnout there when it comes to concepts and near-future cars.
And yeah, hopefully the 2013 Fusion will be a better car than my '82 Cutlass was! Now, that thing was a nice riding, handling, comfortable car that was roomy for its size. And fuel economy wasn't bad for the era. But it was slow from a standstill. And, the transmission went out on it at 61,000, and the 231 V-6 was pretty much trashed by ~73,000. So I hope the new Fusion does better than that!
#16 of 36 Alert Warning Side Mirrors (2013)
by puffin1
Jan 24, 2012 (8:51 am)
Suppose to came with Volvo alert mirrors,which stop you from drifting into the wrong lane..
#17 of 36 Re: 2013 Fusion now out in the open [andre1969]
by lemko
Jan 25, 2012 (12:23 pm)
Funny what a difference 6 years makes for the 231 V-6. The 3.8 V-6 in my 1988 Park Avenue was bulletproof.
#18 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [ucc]
by tgoodell
Jan 25, 2012 (3:38 pm)
Good question. 237HP and 250 some-odd foot/pounds of torque isn't very much for a mid-sized-bordering-on-full-sized sedan. I sure liked the performance and economy of the V6 in the current model Fusion and Taurus; this new motor kind of seems like a step backwards to me as a replacement. In concept anyway, turbos are appealing because the "boost" (and corresponding drop in gas mileage) is only there when you need it--like passing, etc. The problem is, (at least in my experience with turbo motors), being in boost is not just a function of how hard you press down the accelerator; if you tend to drive a little faster than the speed limit, this may also cause you to be in boost, which will totally kill your gas mileage. Hopefully Ford has thought about this.
#19 of 36 Anyone have any info on what AWD system will be used in the '13 Fusion?
by tgoodell
Jan 25, 2012 (3:46 pm)
The Edmunds review states the Ecoboost 2.0 version of the 2013 Fusion will have an AWD system which (and I quote) "will be paired with a rear-biased all-wheel-drive system for enhanced handling capabilities...".
Funny thing is, they said the same exact thing about new Taurus SHO when it was first announced, but sadly, no such AWD system even existed at Ford at that time, and I'm skeptical that one exist now.
Would appreciate any info if anyone runs across some!
#20 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [tgoodell]
by andre1969
Jan 25, 2012 (5:05 pm)
Good question. 237HP and 250 some-odd foot/pounds of torque isn't very much for a mid-sized-bordering-on-full-sized sedan. I sure liked the performance and economy of the V6 in the current model Fusion and Taurus; this new motor kind of seems like a step backwards to me as a replacement
Unfortunately, I've heard that most midsized cars are going to be dropping their V-6 options in the near future, because of impending stricter fuel economy standards.
Plus, V-6 production is usually relatively low in this segment. Just out of curiosity, I checked a local dealer's website to see the inventory breakdown by engine for the 2012 Toyota Camry. They carry a lot of brands, but unfortunately, no Fords,so I couldn't use the Fusion as a reference.
Anyway, they had 160 Camrys in stock.
8 of them were hybrids (5%)
17 were V-6 (10.6%)
135 were 4-cyl (84.4%).
They do have 9 used Fusions in stock. 7 of them are 4-cyl, 2 are V-6.
So, alas, my guess is the V-6 is going the way of the dinosaur...in midsized cars, at least.
#21 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [andre1969]
by tgoodell
Jan 25, 2012 (5:30 pm)
So, alas, my guess is the V-6 is going the way of the dinosaur...in midsized cars, at least.
Well, that does it; I guess we'll both have to buy an SHO
#22 of 36 Re: Dropping V6? [tgoodell]
by LASHAWN
Jan 26, 2012 (3:24 pm)
Isn't this forum for the Hyundai Sonata and not the Ford Fusion.