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#72 of 85 Z4 as an "all-year round car"
Dec 17, 2011 (10:24 pm)
i live in Minnesota (dont ask me why), has bad road conditions during snow. i love sports cars but cant afford summer and winter cars. so if i get this car, i will end up using this the entire year. how is the performance of this car in snow... can this be used all-year around. the dealer tells me that i can change to snow tires...
#73 of 85 Re: Z4 as an "all-year round car" [anandks]
Dec 18, 2011 (7:11 am)
Just get a set of good winter tires- or better yet get a set of winter tires with wheels to simplify the changeover. Tire Rack has several good options. With the proper rubber a Z4 will handle everything but really deep snow.
#74 of 85 Re: Z4 as an "all-year round car" [anandks]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Dec 18, 2011 (9:11 am)
Minnesota? Your biggest problem will be ground clearance.. The winter tires will be fine on a slick road, but you won't be able to get around in heavy snow..
As much as I am an advocate for driving RWD cars year-round (with proper tires), I'd think a Z4 would be poor choice for an only car in Minnesota..
Look at this way... would you buy a Miata to be your only car? If not, then write off the Z4..
#75 of 85 My BMW history
Dec 27, 2011 (5:26 am)
I was not really even aware of BMW [ as a brand or individual models ] until I met a guy in my college dorm that had one.
[[ I was quite smitten with the then current E-Type Jaguars. ]]
Sometime in my freshman year, he took me for a ride in the 1964 or 1965 BMW sedan he was driving at the time. [ The car would probably have been 3 or 4 years old at the time – an 1800 TI, I think. ]
Given my driving experience to that time, the driving dynamics [ even from the passenger seat ] were quite a revelation. I had driven only a few cars at that point – primarily my Mom’s big station wagon, my Dad’s VW Beetle – and the sense of refinement and responsiveness I noted at the time in that BMW was very, very different than anything I had been in before.
Though it was ‘For Sale’, I was not in the market.
Fast Forward to 1975. We were leaving the military and looking for a good sized sedan, a few years old, for the trip back across country, from Arizona to New Hampshire. BMW had introduced a larger and much more sophisticated sedan that had evolved into the Bavaria – 6 cylinders. That was what I wanted. I ‘settled for’ a 1972 Volvo sedan. It served us well, was generally reliable – but uninspiring – for several years and many, many miles.
[ sigh ]
But I really did want a BMW.
In the late 1970s, a friend bought one almost exactly as I would have selected. I rode in it several times and drove it once. It was sooo much better in every way than the Volvo.
Now [ over 35 years later ] I have one.
I picked it up in Munuch, with my Daughter, in September.
I have now driven 3,333 trouble-free miles and very enjoyable miles – 1,000+ in Germany, Austria, Italy and Switzerland – 2,000+ in Georgia and Florida.
No regrets . . .
#76 of 85 There are those of us
Dec 27, 2011 (6:27 pm)
Sorry, no, I'm not sorry. In fact I feel sorry for those who get roped into the "BMW experience". Frankly, I have driven them and I just cannot justify paying the premium just to drive a status symbol. In fact, I don't. I could afford one, but prefer to spend my money on other investments that MAKE money. I don't need a car to tell people I make money...
#77 of 85 Re: There are those of us [cannon3]
Dec 27, 2011 (8:15 pm)
To each his own. Some feel sorry for those who work and save and never indulge their passions. You can't take it with you
#78 of 85 Re: There are those of us [cannon3]
Dec 28, 2011 (10:55 am)
Understood and accepted.
If we all agreed on what a car should be, we'd probably still all be riding around in black Ford Model Ts.
I personally like the feel of a BMW 3 Series, but I would never expect everyone else to like it just because I do.
Other manufacturers need customers, too!
#79 of 85 Re: There are those of us [fintail]
Dec 28, 2011 (11:34 am)
#80 of 85 Re: There are those of us [cannon3]
Dec 28, 2011 (5:16 pm)
In fact I feel sorry for those who get roped into the "BMW experience".
Yes, I've been "roped in" for 28 years. Pity me...
Frankly, I have driven them and I just cannot justify paying the premium just to drive a status symbol.
If you don't appreciate the handling and performance characteristics then you shouldn't buy a BMW. When I help friends buy and install home theater systems I don't push them toward higher end products if they think a HTIB from Insignia or Samsung sounds fine.
I could afford one, but prefer to spend my money on other investments that MAKE money.
So, you are telling everyone here you're rich while at the same time telling them you won't buy a car that makes people think you are rich. OK... In my case I paid off my new 1995 3 Series(which cost less than the MSRP of a 1995 Taurus) and my CPO 2004 X3(which cost less than a new fully-optioned 2004 Escape AWD) within two years after purchasing them- I suppose the smarter thing to do would have been to buy a couple of new domestic vehicles and make payments for 60-72 months, huh?