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You are in the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan Hybrid
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Ford Fusion, Mercury, Hybrid Cars, Fuel Efficiency (MPG), Sedan
#15 of 27 Not Economically Feasible
Feb 04, 2012 (4:05 pm)
2011 Fusion Hybrid - 25k miles
33 Hwy - (actual mileage. The trip computer shows 1.7 to 2.3 mpg better mileage)
You cannot drive this car easy enough to get the EPA rated mileage. We do the "maximum leaf" game, but it just isn't working out as we hoped. Sure it is larger than most cars that get 35 MPG, but it is also a $30k car. I just don't see how this will ever make economic sense.
On a recent 250 mile round trip, I was surprised to see the trip computer reading as low as 30.8 mpg. We were driving with the cruise set to 65 mph on an uncongested freeway, early on a Saturday morning. After getting home, driving around town brought the actual mileage up to 33 mpg by the time we refilled the tank.
The last several tanks of mostly city driving have averaged between 34.5 and 35.5.
We've got 25k miles on the car, I wonder if the NiMH batteries aren't holding a charge as well as new, because our mileage is getting consistently worse. We use Chevron Premium fuel, and change the oil every 5k with Motorcraft 5w20, and a Ford filter.
#16 of 27 Re: Not Economically Feasible [kd7oqc]
Feb 04, 2012 (7:33 pm)
We use Chevron Premium fuel,
This could be part of your problem. The car isn't designed to run on premium gas. Premium burns at a slower rate, and is for higher compression engines, so if the engine isn't designed for it, you will actually get lower fuel efficiency.
IOW you are wasting money by putting premium gas in the car. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, the car doesn't need it.
Stick with 87 octane for the Hybrid.
I have found the cruise control doesn't give you better MPG, it actually hurts it. I stopped using it and focus mostly on trying to maintain the speed with the lightest of pedal as possible. I can see 45 MPG sometimes when I can maintain a nice 40-45 MPH run.
The car can only give you what you want to get out of it when you drive it properly. Hybrids are not as easy to get good MPG out of as one would think. You have to learn the techniques to do so, or you wind up getting results like you are getting. Do a google on Pulse and Glide, and Forced Engine Off driving techniques. They are simple methods, but a PITA to learn correctly to get what the car can give you.
One other thing to mention, the highway MPG is going to be lower than city MPG, unless you draft, but that is not recommended. For the most part, highway MPG will be about the same as that on the 4cyl version Fusion.
I have about 60k miles on Hybrids, starting with the Prius, which I have seen as high as 65 MPG on the highway with, and the Camry Hybrid which I was getting 35 MPG pretty consistently. Right now winter MPG is 34.4 in it mainly due to it just breaking in, but I am starting to see it going up now that it has passed the 10K mark. Somedays on the same roads I can see 40 MPG, others 34 MPG, depends on the temperature, and other drivers, and just how much of a hurry I am in.
If I drive it like a normal car though, I'm lucky if I see 32 MPG.
#17 of 27 To worry or not to worry is the question!!
Apr 11, 2012 (12:42 pm)
I have a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid with 43,000 miles. I love this car. And it is so fun to drive.
All those things aside, I believe I get in tune with my vehicles way too much and I don't know if that is a good thing or bad thing. Because this vehicle has been the first fuel efficient car we have ever had, I have been watching the MPG rather closely. Hoping to come close to what EPA says. I have always driven my vehicles like you are told to drive this hybrid. Try to coast and light on the gas pedal and stop slowly and never jack rabbit. Those things help save gas on normal cars that are not hybrid. So I am more than accustomed to that type of driving.
Now, I live in Lakeway Texas and the hills out here are pretty good. Climbing up and around them everyday. I would understand the MPG's would suffer a bit. I have been driving this car for three months now. Got it used. My MPG's were very stable at about 35.4. Even on long trips straight highway driving. Maybe it would finally creep up to just over 36 MPG. So for us, I would expect we would get better MPG's on long road trips than where we live because of the hills.
This weekend we went to San Antonio and spent the night there. In the morning when I went to start it and drive all was fine, but on our way to our destination, the MPG's dropped. It ended up at 27 mpg at the lowest and would climb back up slowly (to about 29) to recover then as soon as I hit the gas to get into highway traffic, it falls back down to 27. It is not acting stable in anyway any longer. On the way back home, a one and a half hour drive, it climbed to 37mpg's at one point, which in the past it had never done. Driving along the hills again, I am back down to 34mpg's. I suspect there is a regulator/relay issue, but I called Ford to ask them if there was something I was doing wrong. He told me that indeed there seems to be a relay issue, but to not worry about it. The gas meter is also showing the effect of the MPG's. Has anyone seen anything like this, and should I not worry about it? I don't want to trust Ford. Maybe they just want me to run out of warranty. What are your thoughts?
#18 of 27 LOUSY mileage
Apr 16, 2012 (6:26 pm)
Hi all - apologies for posting the same message twice. I'm really upset and hoping to find some good advice. Anyway, here goes:
I just bought a '10 FFH. My measured consumption for the first tankful was 22.5mpg This is crazy, yes? Granted, most of my driving over the 420km / 260m was on freeways with the cruise control set at 130kph/80mph or a little more, although some of it was careful in-town driving. I know hybrid efficiencies aren't really operating at those speeds, but I would still have expected better from a reasonably aerodynamic vehicle with an allegedly super-efficient engine. Most people seem to get low 30s under similar conditions. One thing that worries me and might be relevant is the frequent appearance of the little yellow wrench symbol during high-speed cruising. Obviously, I'm going to get it checked out ASAP, but I still wonder if anyone has any thoughts about this fuel consumption.
#19 of 27 Re: LOUSY mileage [pootle]
Apr 16, 2012 (8:36 pm)
My 2cents worth, I don't believe this type of vehicle is gonna do any good going that fast. It's a 4 cylinder. It will be working extra hard. Just my thoughts on that part of ur driving. Also the cruise contol uses more gas if used than would your foot by driving yourself. Just my thoughts. I haven't noticed to much lose on mps's going that fast cause I usually don't drive more than 80 and usually not for any extended period of time. I did notice the very small engine working very hard and I backed off. Good luck!
#20 of 27 80+ mph with cruise control on ??
Apr 20, 2012 (12:59 pm)
Well , your reward should be low mileage and some tickets for speeding. I'd but you are one of those people who drive as fast as you can to the next redlight in town too.
We're averaging overall 38 mpg's coming out of winter and one month into Spring. I expect to average 41 mpg in a couple of months...just like last year.
#21 of 27 Re: 80+ mph with cruise control on ?? [wilcox]
Apr 20, 2012 (1:43 pm)
Ahhh - the self-righteous flame. I should have expected one, I suppose. No, I never drive like that in town and despise people who do. I only cruise fast on freeways when conditions allow it, which, fortunately, is most of the time. Modern freeways were designed specifically for safe high-speed cruising and the very low speed limits are largely hangovers from oil crisis days. In any case, they are typically ignored. On the freeways I usually use, in Ontario and northern NY, the usual cruising speed is around 120kph/75mph, so 130kph/81mph is not dramatically faster and the speed differential, the really important safety factor, between myself and most other cars is only 10kph/6mph.
Apr 21, 2012 (4:59 am)
Let's stick to the mileage and avoid the personal conflicts please.
#23 of 27 Re: Easy [pf_flyer]
Apr 21, 2012 (2:12 pm)
#24 of 27 Long term update
Dec 27, 2012 (6:14 pm)
So far my MPG is rock solid right in the range, 36-41. During the Summer it finally broke its cherry and started getting really good FE, up to 43 MPG for a long time, and now that the cold is back its in the 37-39 range again. I never drive it over 70, wastes gas if I do, but if I can get it in a grove doing 65, I can easily crack 50 MPG in it. I surprised myself one day and got 50.2 over a 65 mile trip.
I also have a 2013 FFH, and sadly the old 2010 gets better MPG than the new one, by at least 2 MPG. Not too thrilled with the new one right now.