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#75 of 716 Re: 2013 Avalon NEW Grill [ncee]
Jul 08, 2012 (3:33 am)
Let's face it, as much as I and countless others try to warm up to the front end design that the so called design experts at Toyota in Michigan and California have come up with, I cannot warm up to the 2013 Avalon terrible front end design execution. It is extremely offensive! It is terrible design execution! Do the people with decision making abilities at Toyota have the cahoonas to admit they are wrong, that they screwed up in accepting this poor excuse of contemporary line design on paper that looks so ugly in real form, or will they let their egos ruin an otherwise good looking car go down the tubes and make a lot of people extremely unhappy, and not buy their product? You guys at Toyota, I thought one of your main goals is to sell product, right? Well how do you expect to do that with such a polarizing, offensive, ugly front end? Don't you guys at Toyota have any common sense...at all? Yes, initially I thought the design was cool, but I made a mistake and am willing to admit it. Aren't you?
#77 of 716 Re: 2013 Avalon NEW Grill [ncee]
Jul 16, 2012 (7:55 am)
Ok.. so the largemouth bass caught a minnow... It still doesn't work.
#78 of 716 Re: 2013 Avalon NEW Grill [fin]
Jul 16, 2012 (7:56 am)
Works better É I think.
Also figuring Toyota isn't going to change the grill for the 2013 model, I just want to convince myself it's better:)
#79 of 716 Re: 2013 Avalon NEW Grill [fin]
Jul 16, 2012 (7:59 am)
I'm still hoping a painted lower grill (painted the same color as the car) will look better. I've talked about it with my local paint shop, and he's sure he can do it, and it will look nice, just not sure if it will be the answer.
#80 of 716 Re: 2013 Avalon NEW Grill [ushy66]
Jul 16, 2012 (4:11 pm)
I guess I'm the only one who likes the grill. I thought it was a little over the top at first but then I thought the Audi grill was a little over the top too.
#82 of 716 Re: 2013 Avalon NEW Grill [ncee]
Jul 16, 2012 (10:40 pm)
Thanks, but no thanks.
If Toyota remains bullheaded and does not change/reconsider the 2013 front end/grill design, I just may jump ship too like Jeffm5. I will now start to seriously look at the competition over next 12 mos: Nissan Altima (2013 SL), Nissan Maxima (2014, when it is introduced in ~ 12 mos), Hyundai Azera (2013), Hyundai Genesis (2014 MY change due in ~ 12 mos), etc. I have been a loyal Toyota owner in past, but...the design wonks at Toyota are changing that. Even dumb politicians have the common sense to appeal to their base, but apparently not Toyota. I am frustrated with the lack of leadership and bad design execution at Toyota. Reminds me of the poor design decision-making that was done at Acura with their polarizing 'bagel cutter' looking grill design that caused many previously loyal Acura followers to look and go elsewhere, jump ship, for the last several years.
#83 of 716 Re: 2013 Avalon Pricing?
Jul 17, 2012 (1:51 pm)
This makes for interesting wondering?
So will the avalon be less, and if so, how much? Because to close, will have a lot of folks jumping ship to Lexus??? Is this their plane all along?
Anything less then $4,000.00 lower, will make it VERY hard for me not to switch.
#84 of 716 Just the dashes makes it a hard sell if the price
Jul 17, 2012 (2:03 pm)
isn't a lot lower.
This will be interesting to see what happens. For me, being on the inside and driving 40,000 miles a year, the inside is REAL important to me, and well, the Lexus looks a lot nice, as well it should, but at a base price that's less then a LTD Avalon???