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#660 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [poorthingflint]
Aug 22, 2013 (10:25 am)
I test drove a 2013 Avalon Touring with properly inflated Michelins with the intent of trading in my 2007 Avi Touring. I found the ride and handling similar to my 2007 but was turned off by the cramped feeling inside the 2013 compared to the 2007 and the lack of some of the features I like in my car, reclining back seat, large door pockets and other things mentioned by previous posters. Since my 2007 only has 22000 miles on it I will keep it for a long time.
We just bought a 2013 RAV4 that was delivered to us with 50 psi tire pressure on all 4 wheels. It's ride was unbearable until I lowered the pressure to factory specs. That transformed the ride to smooth and comfortable. From what I can gather Toyotas are transported with high tire pressure to keep the movement on the truck to a minimum. Unfortunately most of the dealers do not adjust it to. specs before delivery.
#661 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [myav07]
Aug 22, 2013 (10:42 am)
So it wasn't just the ride for you either, was it.
I to, missed some of the other features, and with that and the ride, decided to trade my 2013 in on a 2012, and have never looked back.
YES, there are many features I liked / Loved on the 2013, but none enough to live with the ride and other issues.
I have been told told of these issues will be addressed in the 2014, but not likely they will make the car bigger, add back the rear reclining seats, make the trunk opening larger, make it less cramped inside É
#662 of 716 Re: A/C [malcolm9]
Aug 22, 2013 (3:33 pm)
"cash for clunkers probably lowered the price of gas a little by improving the efficiency of the American fleet"
Maybe marginally, but on the baseline of gpd used, it's a blip. What it DID do, was take a million used cars out of the market, and raised the average price of used cars about $4480 dollars. (Depends on the model, of course). It should have corrected some by now, as the subsidized cars are now starting to come back in off lease or by trades, but it really hasn't corrected very much at all. And that's puzzling us.....
To have Used Cars so expensive now, in a depressed economy is quite the hardship on the low-moderate income population. So, while the effort helped out the domestic auto industry (as well as all the imports as well), the unintended consequence was to screw up the free market, sadly. And we all pay for that.
Well, I hope it was unintended.
#663 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [ncee]
Aug 23, 2013 (7:09 am)
Your right ncee. They might make some minor changes and make the ride softer, but the interior size won't get any larger. Since the 2012 Avalon is the last of its kind, when the time comes to sell, it will bring nice bucks since there are folks out there that love the car but not the new 2013. So we are the last ones driving 2012 that will benefit from it. Have a great day.
#664 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [marv15]
Aug 23, 2013 (7:39 am)
Heck, I'm looking for nice Old Buick Park Avenues (I've had 3, one with 337,000 miles), and or old Buick Roadmasters. Mostly because I like big cars, and you are right, the day of the nice large comfortable riding car, just might be over:(
#665 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [myav07]
Aug 23, 2013 (7:55 am)
I find it interesting and telling that so many Toyotas are being delivered with badly over inflated tires. Motor Trend hammered the Avalon for its ride " The Avalon crashed and banged over bumps,transmitting lots of harsh noise to the cabin". Want to guess what tires their car had? Yep, Bridgestones. I also would be willing to bet the tires had close to 40lbs of air in them because that ride description was exactly my feelings about my first test drive in a Avalon. Bet this over site by the dealers is costing sales both at the point of sale and word of mouth. By the way Car and Driver rated the Avalon the best in their test of the same group of cars including the new Impala. Want to guess what tire was on the car? If you guessed Michlins you go to the head of the class. Not sure if they had the proper air pressure but they were still way better than the car with "Stones". Trust me folks it makes that much difference when your suspension is tuned towards the best and safest handling of your car versus the land yacht float of the 70's. That type of suspension tuning would handle over inflated tires with out a problem. Heck,might ride pretty softly with a hard rubber tire or even wagon wheels. But get yourself in a demanding emergency situation with your life and or property on the line and you will rue the day your cars emergency handling was poor to non existent and understand the virtues of cars like the new Avalon. I will go for the better handling car for the same reason I would not choose to drive a car without seat belts,air bags, ABS and stability control etc.
#666 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [ncee]
Aug 24, 2013 (6:08 am)
"Heck, I'm looking for nice Old Buick Park Avenues (I've had 3, one with 337,000 miles), and or old Buick Roadmasters. Mostly because I like big cars, and you are right, the day of the nice large comfortable riding car, just might be over:(
Grab a 2011 Town Car! Have an audio shop install a really nice Navigation/Bluetooth system (really the only important feature it doesn't have) and you'll have a heck of ride for not a lot of money.
#667 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [marv15]
Sep 03, 2013 (6:11 am)
I just purchased a 2013 Avalon XLE touring. The stiff suspension does not bother me. However, there are times where I will feel a strong vibration for a second or two. It is very sporadic, sometimes it's after I hit a bump in the road and sometimes it will happen out of the blue on smooth black top.
I love the car but do not care for this vibration. The dealership has checked the car and says there is nothing wrong. I took a ride with the service manager to try and reproduce the issue. It happen a couple of times after some bumps and I was told this is normal.
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? I am used to cars with low profile tires and stiff suspension but I have never experienced this vibration. I have the michelin tires at 35 psi. I plan to try 33 psi as others have recommended but not sure if this will make a difference.
#668 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [jgre333]
Sep 03, 2013 (6:38 am)
I would strongly suggest you find the nearest Michelin tire dealer and have the manager ride with you to experience the problem and at the very least get the car up on a lift and inspect the tires and suspension. By the way the correct inflation pressure is 33lbs and I can see no benefit from running more. Good luck and please let us know how it turns out.
#669 of 716 Re: Any 2012 Avalon performance issues guys? [jgre333]
Sep 03, 2013 (7:48 am)
If your car is running on Michelin tires get used to this vibration/roughness whenever you are driving on anything but a glass smooth surface. That's because the sidewalls on the Michelins have stiff belts that do not absorb impact or energy from the road and transmit the vibration into the chasis of the car.
I recently installed Michelin Primacy MXV4 tires on my 2009 Toyota Avalon and the car's ride deteriorated noticeably. I now feel the same vibration you do plus road cracks, expansion joints, and any roughness in the pavement that I never felt before. The same thing happened to my son's Toyota Sienna after he installed new Michelin Energy Saver tires. I have lowered my tire pressure a bit with some minor improvement in ride quality. Consumer Reports rated these tires at the top in most categories and say the tires provide a smooth and quiet ride. Based on my experience, I don't know how they could come to that conclusion.