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#580 of 716 Re: 17" vs 18" tires [mikexxxx]
Jul 08, 2013 (12:58 pm)
I bought my 2013 Avalon Hybrid Limited on March 1, without having read any comments about ride issues. It had to be built to get the color scheme I wanted so I didn't see it before it was delivered to the dealer. Mine came equipped with Michelin Primacy MXV4 215/55R 17 tires. I have found the ride to be firm but very, very quiet, and the car handles beautifully. In fact, after having driven it for nearly 3,000 miles, I have found everything about the car - styling, ride, seat comfort, cabin quiet, electronics - to be wonderful. Mileage so far has been about 42 mpg (almost all miles driven in ECO mode; I didn't buy it to be a sports car). For me, at least, Toyota has hit a homerun with this car, but perhaps I was just lucky to get one equipped with the Michelin Primacy MXV4 tires.l I think the standard rims on the Hybrid Limited model are 17 inches, so I guess I could have had the Bridgestones which have generated so much discussion.
#581 of 716 ride v6 vs hybrid
Jul 08, 2013 (2:29 pm)
I was able to do a short test drive with Limited V6 and I noticed the suspension doesn't quite absorb the smaller bumps so you feel small vibrations at times but wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. I yet have to drive the hybrid since dealer didn't have one but in theory should have smoother ride. Also in curves there's little bit more lean than I expected and seats could use more side support.
I also drove MKZ hybrid and overall better in curves and suspension feels also sporty but absorbs smaller bumps better. The cargo is smaller but at least you can fold the rear seats. Seems also quieter. But there are downsides with MKZ:
- (too) small tank (13.2 cu ft compared to 17)
- smaller cargo area with seats up
- less spacious (less rear seat leg room).
- Real world highway mpg is bit lower according to CR
#582 of 716 Re: ride v6 vs hybrid [lucien4]
Jul 08, 2013 (4:23 pm)
Do not forget Toyota has been using the same basic battery design in its hybrids since day one. Ford/Lincoln has just embraced its current batteries used in all it's hybrids and when you buy their cars you will be taking a leap of faith. CR retested a Toyota Prius owned by a staffer with over 200,000 miles on the original battery and it had lost little if any performance. I still think the 18" wheel with 55 aspect Michlins or some other quality tire known for good riding characteristics might be the way to go. Looks like it will fit to me but all Avalon Hybrids come with 17's but the trick is to not get "Stones".
#583 of 716 CR TAH Review and Owners Reviews
Jul 13, 2013 (11:29 am)
Consumer Reports damming statement: " Hybrids and lower-trim V6 models have 17-inch wheels that noticeably take off the edge and make the ride less harsh. Sadly, they still don't restore it to traditional Avalon standards. Most $25,000 midsized sedans ride better" is not holding up in the user reviews on their website which now has 28 2013 Avalon reviews (far more than any other 2013 Toyota). Most of the user reviews do not criticize the hybrids ride and the ones that do are for the most part for V6 limited. I thought that one of the latest reviews might be closer to the truth on the TAH and other models with 17 inch wheels:
The car rides and handles quite well. As a previous Avalon owner (2008) there was
concern about the ride, especially given CR's review. However, the ride is fine
and the concerns are, IMHO, overblow"
How many people here tested the Camry hybrid before buying the Avalon hybrid and thought that the Camry had a better ride? CR rated the Camry's ride as superior to the Avalon's.
#584 of 716 Re: CR TAH Review and Owners Reviews [havec]
Jul 13, 2013 (11:44 am)
Quite well, maybe, but NOT as nice as earlier model Avalons É IMHO
I've had 4 Avalons in the past few years (A new 2008, that I traded (with 68,000 miles after 15 months) for a New 2010, that I traded (with 45,000 miles after 11 months) for a New 2013, that I traded (with 3700 miles in 30 days) for a New 2012.
I traded the 2013 because it was louder, and much less comfortable. Even though I put mostly highway miles on (35,000+ a year), it was to loud on the highway, and when I was on rougher roads, it was way to uncomfortable for my liking.
I REALLY wanted the 2013 to be a wonderful car, and in many ways it is, just not in the ways I needed it to be.
- LESS Comfortable
- Smaller back seat
- Smaller trunk opening
- No reclining back seat (my passengers REALLY like this feature)
- Smaller or different interior space / feel.
- Tech Package
- Quiet Wipers
- Fit, Finish and trim (for the most part).
- Looks of the car, is Great!
#585 of 716 Re: CR TAH Review and Owners Reviews [ncee]
Jul 13, 2013 (12:19 pm)
I'm guessing that was a 2013 V6 Limited with 18 inch wheels that you traded in for the 2012?
#586 of 716 Re: CR TAH Review and Owners Reviews [ncee]
Jul 13, 2013 (3:00 pm)
Yours may well be the most heavily publicized personal change of car models in modern American history. Again and again and yet again, in this forum and in the Toyota Nation Avalon forum, and probably elsewhere, you have made the same points over and over. We know why you switched, we accept your reasons but maybe you should consider giving it a rest and moving on.
For others who might be interested, let me say that my 2013 Avalon Limited V6, with Michelin Primacy MXM4 225/45R18 tires is a tremendous car. I love the taut, controlled ride, the responsive handling and the smooth impressive power. The fit and finish are extraordinarily good, even compared with my previous Lexus LS430 and ES300. As I have posted before, for those who find the ride a bit stiff, dropping the tire pressure from 33 PSI to 31 PSI can make a significant difference.
Jul 14, 2013 (12:46 am)
I'm about to buy my 5th Avalon. I've had a '96xle, an '05, 08 and and an 11 limited. So far the 2011 has been my favorite. I plan on retiring in a few years and this 2013 will probably be the last car I buy.
It has the tech package because I really missed the dynamic cruise control. Color is crimson mica.
Jul 14, 2013 (5:03 am)
I thought about the limited with the Tech Package but like yourself I am retired and bought the Touring model instead. The more gizmos the car has the more things that can be problematical. Like you being 73 this could easily be my last car and electrical problems are the leading source of problems as vehicles age so I went with the basic features I decided I really needed. If I go first there will be less for the little lady to deal with as the car ages and she hates giving up a car as long as looks good and drives OK. We kept a Lexus we owned for 10years and she still thinks I was crazy to get rid of it. Sometimes I think it is that attitude that has saved me from being traded in. After 47yrs of marriage I am starting to malfunction and require a lot more repairs and maintenance!
#589 of 716 Re: CR TAH Review and Owners Reviews [robnich]
Jul 14, 2013 (7:54 pm)
Completely different car but test drove today Accord Coupe and it absorbs small bumps much better. Overall I thought suspension is better.
Also in curves I don't feel like sliding off the seat. I'm fine with sporty suspension but seats don't seem to quite support it.
But will do another test drive with hybrid with smaller 17" and see how that compares since I still prefer finding good hybrid first.
I wish there would be a model or options in-between XLE touring and limited. The jump of 4K is bit big and don't need all those options.
Also noticed another poor small overlap test for Toyota with RAV4. So not sure Avalon would do much better but at least it got bit more airbags maybe...