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#525 of 716 Avalon Wheel & Tire size
Jun 02, 2013 (11:15 am)
Thanks for the reply. I am hoping that I can just "get used to" the bumpy ride in the new suspension and tire size. We'll see. If not, I wanted to know what my options were. I like everything else about the car. I think Toyota blew the interior out of the roof this time around and I like the options I got on the Touring model, otherwise, I would have gone with the less expensive Premium. I really had no idea that the 18 inch low profile tires would cause this much difference between my 2006 Avalon and the new 2013 ride. I just liked the cool look of the tires. LOL still learning at 51. What can I say? haha. I don't mind a little stiffer suspension and I can understand that Toyota is trying to grab a younger demographic...just wished they hadn't gone that far with it or at least offered an option on the wheel and tire size for the different trim levels. So far, love the car, otherwise and will deal with the tire issue. I looked at other cars for several months before buying and I kept coming back to the Avalon. It was just a good value for the money. Thanks again!.
#526 of 716 Re: Avalon Wheel & Tire size [teresa01]
Jun 02, 2013 (12:37 pm)
Before you go to the expense and trouble of changing wheels and/or tires, try dropping the tire pressures from 33 psi to 31 psi, as mentioned by an earlier poster. This does make a significant difference. After you drop the pressure, reset the Tire Pressure Monitoring System as outlined in the owners' manual.
Also note that after ranting online about the harsh ride with 18" wheels, Consumer Reports ended up in the print edition this month giving both the V6 (18") and the Hybrid (17") Avalons the same open circle (average) rating in the Ride category. One would have expected at least a half-black circle for the V6 after reading the rant online.
#527 of 716 Re: Excellent Video Critique and Review of 2013 Avy vs ES [poorthingflint]
Jun 02, 2013 (8:52 pm)
I've been considering going to 215 60R 17's from the stock 215 55R 17's. An online tire calculator gives:
15/55-17 to 215/60-17 Difference
Diameter inches (mm) 26.31 (668.3) 27.16 (689.8) 0.85 (21.5) 3.2%
Width inches (mm) 8.46 (215) 8.46 (215) 0 (0) 0%
Circum. inches (mm) 82.66 (2099.53) 85.32 (2167.07) 2.66 (67.54) 3.2%
Sidewall Height inches (mm) 4.66 (118.25) 5.08 (129) 0.42 (10.75) 9.1%
Revolutions per mile (km) 766.53 (476.3) 742.64 (461.45) -23.89 (-14.85) -3.1%
Changing the 18 inch wheels from stock 45's to 55's
225/45-18 to 225/55-18 Difference
Diameter inches (mm) 25.97 (659.7) 27.74 (704.7) 1.77 (45) 6.8%
Width inches (mm) 8.86 (225) 8.86 (225) 0 (0) 0%
Circum. inches (mm) 81.59 (2072.51) 87.16 (2213.88) 5.57 (141.37) 6.8%
Sidewall Height inches (mm) 3.99 (101.25) 4.87 (123.75) 0.89 (22.5) 22.2%
Revolutions per mile (km) 776.52 (482.51) 726.93 (451.69) -49.59 (-30.81) -6.4%
The diameter of the stock 17 and 18 inch wheels only differs by:
225/45-18 to 215/55-17 Difference
Diameter inches (mm) 25.97 (659.7) 26.31 (668.3) 0.34 (8.6) 1.3%
Width inches (mm) 8.86 (225) 8.46 (215) -0.39 (-10) -4.4%
Circum. inches (mm) 81.59 (2072.51) 82.66 (2099.53) 1.06 (27.02) 1.3%
Sidewall Height inches (mm) 3.99 (101.25) 4.66 (118.25) 0.67 (17) 16.8%
Revolutions per mile (km) 776.52 (482.51) 766.53 (476.3) -9.99 (-6.21) -1.3%
I'm guessing that the 18 inch 55 series tires might be a little tight in the wheel wells.
My local tire dealer said not change the AR of the 17's from 55 to 60 only because you couldn't get the same performance rating in the 60 series.
I'm still considering it both for the added cushioning and the added road clearance if I can find a really good handling and riding 215 60 17 tire.
#528 of 716 Re: Avalon 2013 ride (CR reports?) [havec]
Jun 03, 2013 (8:53 am)
That said, I know my TAH isn't going to beat too many cars in noise level going up the steep hill to my house.
And that's exactly what I'm saying.
Still, with all that said, the Camry is decidedly quieter than any Honda Accord model, especially from Road Noise.
#529 of 716 Re: Avalon Wheel & Tire size [robnich]
Jun 03, 2013 (12:54 pm)
A lot of us are having second thoughts about CR. Yes, the ride could better especially with 18 wheels but not to the point where you have to trash the car by saying that "most $25k sedans ride better". Something that most people on this forum do not agree with.
#530 of 716 Re: Avalon Wheel & Tire size [havec]
Jun 03, 2013 (3:53 pm)
Have been an avid reader and supporter of CR for many years.... but they seem to be publishing more subjective opinions than testing facts lately. The mag is one of the better, my opinion, absolutely independent. But my idea of success is putting measureable test results on the page. What is "firm" to one driver may be "normal" to another, be it tires, seats or anything else.
The recent Avalon comments noted here are a good example of this and the confusion is causes. My test ride in a 2013 Limited was quiet. The ride was harder than my '07 but not bad. No idea about tire air pressure. The mag tells us very little except "go drive a hybrid" or whatever and see if you like it. Compare it to whatever else you like and go with the results.. not a lot of help this time around....
#531 of 716 Re: Avalon Wheel & Tire size [fin]
Jun 03, 2013 (5:44 pm)
Interesting info on the effect of tire size and aspect ratio,thanks. As far as seat firmness,as long as the seats are properly shaped and supportive is a lot like mattresses. There are many folks who like their mattresses firm and many folks who favor pillow top soft. One mans misery is another's delight. With that said,as we get well along in years our bodies lean towards a softer mattress then when we where younger. Hence,some owners find the seats too firm others love 'em. I also have never heard of a soft seat getting firmer but I sure have heard of and experienced a hard seat getting softer with use. My first BMW would be a good example. I also think your body adjust over time to the seat as well. Food for thought.
#532 of 716 Re: 17" vs 18" tires [teresa01]
Jun 04, 2013 (7:57 am)
I have a 2013 avalon xle ( base ) with michelin tires on 17 inch rims and have no problems. This is my 3rd avalon and the ride is not as smooth as earlier models but these tires are good in rain and dry roads.
#533 of 716 Re: 17" vs 18" tires [capaccione]
Jun 05, 2013 (3:11 am)
Thanks for your reply. This is interesting. If you have the base model with the 17" wheel and tires and you find that the ride is not quite as smooth as earlier models, then it must be a combination as others have said of a stiffer suspension and not just the wheel size. I have driven my new car a few more days now and I am getting more used to a bit firmer ride. I think I will replace my bridgestone tires with the Michelin's on my 18" wheels when the time comes, first rather than ditching the 18" wheels and spending the bucks for the 17" right off the bat. From the sounds of it, that won't be too long coming as I put approx. 21,000.00 a year on a car. If anyone else has had any experience with the tires/wheels I would love to hear any other comments on this subject. Thanks.
#534 of 716 Re: 17" vs 18" tires [teresa01]
Jun 05, 2013 (3:34 am)
Would suggest you also look into also going up to a 55 aspect ratio tire as well. I think it will work and might be the best solution to a ride that may be a little to firm for some. The "Stones" are awful! Could not believe the difference when I got them off a Lexus I owned in ride and NOISE levels.