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#355 of 494 Re: Toyota Avalon 2012 vs 2013 [djrc08861]
Feb 06, 2013 (12:44 pm)
I'm pretty sure the new Avalon and ES are the same size now, little smaller than the 2012 Avalon, but larger than the Camry. I haven't driven either yet. Keeping my LS for quite a while longer I think. But if they have tried to turn the Avalon OR the ES into a sports car, it's a mistake. I like the idea above of the different model choices.
My GM at the Lexus store told me, they Lexus goal is to provide a Reliable BMW now. I am ok with that to some degree - but not if it becomes uncomfortable, noisy or bumpy. And I'm not a fan of the damn mouse.
#356 of 494 Re: Toyota Avalon 2012 vs 2013 [nvbanker]
Feb 06, 2013 (12:57 pm)
nice.i originally want the LS.cost too steep though and i won't settle for a used one.so im buying a new es.the fact that its almost as big as the avalon is reason im getting it
#357 of 494 Re: Toyota Avalon 2012 vs 2013 [djrc08861]
Feb 06, 2013 (1:32 pm)
Are you getting the ES with the 17" or 18" tires? I believe the 18" tires are an option. Would appreciate your comments on the configuration.
#358 of 494 Re: Toyota Avalon 2012 vs 2013 [geo123]
Feb 06, 2013 (1:34 pm)
17.they say ride is smoother.just confused with all the packages.lexus makes it difficult with 7 different packages.avalon was way more simpler to buy
#359 of 494 Re: Toyota Avalon 2012 vs 2013 [djrc08861]
Feb 06, 2013 (4:10 pm)
For looks and handling, many newer cars are using 18" and larger rims and these almost always give a harsher, rougher ride. Also, the lower profile tires that come on those rims don't last too long.
#360 of 494 Avalon vs Lexus E 350
Feb 07, 2013 (9:38 am)
The Lexus E350 has smaller dimensions than the Avalon by two to three inches in all areas, front shoulder room rear shoulder and leg room. It is built on the Camry platform where the Avalon is an entirely different vehicle. The 17 vs 18 inch tires make a big difference although I did not drive a Avalon Premium which has 17's and the bare bones E350 does also. i just feel that Toyota has abandoned the over 60 set for a younger group. Those looking for the old Avalon ride in a 2013 will just have to look elsewhere.
#361 of 494 Re: Avalon vs Lexus E 350 [jd21me]
Feb 07, 2013 (10:21 am)
With all due respect, the ES 350 is now built on the Avalon platform and the interior dimensions, leg,hip,headroom, are virtually identical according to NewCarTestDrive.com
#362 of 494 Re: Avalon vs Lexus E 350 [douglas1]
Feb 07, 2013 (11:58 am)
#363 of 494 Re: Avalon vs Lexus E 350 [djrc08861]
Feb 07, 2013 (12:47 pm)
In all honesty all three are essentially the same car. The Avalon (and now ES) just rides on the stretched version of the platform (2" longer wheelbase).
#364 of 494 2013 Avalon... or Honda
Feb 07, 2013 (10:05 pm)
With the recent discussion on new car comparisons..... A check on a website with 2013 auto power and other measurements shows that the 2013 Avalon is stunningly similar to the 2013 Honda Accord... The Accord has slightly more HP, more torque and better highway mileage. The Avalon is 4 inches overall longer and has a 2 inch longer wheelbase. The Avy has 1" more rear headroom but all other interior dimensions are almost the same, under 1 inch difference, the Honda has a bit more here, the Avy a bit more there. The Avalon trunk is 3% larger and the total interior volume measurement is within 1%.
No argument that the Avy has more style, better finish, etc., than a 2013 Honda Accord sedan... but if you are buying basic quality transportation, the Honda is 5k less loaded with V6, nav, etc., and is just as dependable. Add in the V6 Camry and... what are they thinking with Avalon?
But I did park next to a '13 recently, the grille is not as bad I had expected from close up and the body style and interior materials are impressive. Now all I need is a test drive!