Last post on May 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM
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Toyota Avalon, Toyota, Sedan
#287 of 491 Re: want to buy new 2012 [stormin800]
Jan 21, 2013 (10:53 am)
Tough answer, as to how I feel.
I feel like Toyota let me and others like me, who were hoping for, expecting a Luxury model Avalon, and that's not what they produced.
I had traded a 2011 Avalon LTD in for the 2013, and so, yes, in the end, I should have keep my 2011, as there isn't much difference between the 2011 and 2012 I now have.
I didn't like having to go backwards to get what I was hoping the 2013 was going to be:(
I'm sure for all the reasons I didn't like the 2013, I will love the 2012 more. But I will miss many things about the 2013.
- The great looks
- The fit, finish and trim
- The tech package and it's features
- The great looking rear end (love those tailpipes)
I won't miss
- The size or lack thereof
- The road noise (which is likely less with 17" tires)
- The harsher ride (again maybe only an issue with 18" tires)
- The smaller back seat
- The smaller front seat area
- The smaller spare tire
- The smaller trunk opening
- The lack of reclining seats
- The fact I was going to have to get a New Cell phone to be able to use Bluetooth?
Now some of these weren't deal breakers, but just some other things I didn't like or wish Toyota hadn't got rid of or changed. But hey, that's just me:)
#288 of 491 Re: 2012 Avalon [ncee]
Jan 21, 2013 (5:28 pm)
I saw a a2013 at the dealership today. Beautiful car - inside and out. The first thing I did was sit in the driver's seat. As bad as I hate my 05 LTD seats, I don't think these were much better. VERY firm and I could still feel a lump in the bottom center cushion. Sat in a 2013 Honda, which I heard had better seats than previous Hondas, and they were very firm, too! What ever happened to nice soft comfy seats?!!! Also, was shocked at price! My 05 was $34,500. Now - $45,000! Guess I'll wait until one of you puts yours up for sale in a couple of years. I can't remember who it was, but someone posted that they went from the Avalon to a Volvo S80 for seat comfort. Just wondering how that person likes their Volvo now? Any problems? I'm a little leary of Volvos reliability-especially having my Avalon for 8 years with ZERO problems!
#289 of 491 Re: 2012 Avalon [lnt]
Jan 21, 2013 (6:40 pm)
Seriously doubt your numbers Int. MSRP for 2013 Limited is $40,445 and that has substantially more equipment than your 2005 Limited. I had a 2005 Limited too before I got my 2011 Limited. MSRP on my 2005 Limited, without Navigation was $35,428. Add $2000 for Navigation and the best Limited in 2005 would be $37,428 compared to $40,445. That's well less than 10% over 8 years. Not bad in my book.
#290 of 491 Re: 2012 Avalon [lnt]
Jan 21, 2013 (6:54 pm)
I traded my 05 Avalon LTD for a loaded Volvo S60. The front seat comfort in the S60 is fantastic, although I thought it was good in the Avalon. Of course, the S60 is much smaller than the 05 Avalon and the ride is firmer. I have close to 6,000 miles on the S60 and the only problem I have so far relates to the remote, which I'm sure will be covered under warranty.
I was also very reluctant to leave my trouble free Toyotas (I've had 3) for any European car. However, Volvo covers all repairs and maintenance, except for tires, for 5 yrs. or 50,000 miles, so I made the move. No regrets.
#291 of 491 Re: 2012 Avalon [douglas1]
Jan 21, 2013 (8:20 pm)
My dealer wanted $45 - almost $46K!
#292 of 491 Re: 2012 Avalon [jeffm5]
Jan 21, 2013 (8:23 pm)
I was looking at the S80 Volvo. I think it should be roomy enough in the backseat. Yes, I was just looking at the warranty! That's great. Now, if I just didn't have to go into Dallas or Fort Worth for maintenance.
#293 of 491 Re: 2012 Avalon [lnt]
Jan 21, 2013 (11:50 pm)
Go to another dealer. Toyota is not responsible for 'additional dealer markup' prices and probably discourages that behavior. It's also the mark of an unscrupulous dealer in my opinion.
#294 of 491 Re: 2012 Avalon [jeffm5]
Jan 22, 2013 (6:21 am)
Hi. Skip here. Maybe I should have gone that route:)
I got my 2013 Avalon, and loved it in many ways, just not all the ways that I wanted, so I traded it in on a 2012?
Jan 22, 2013 (6:39 am)
I was wondering what others thought of the seats on the 2012 Limited for long drives. Occasionally I drive to Atlanta (5+ hrs) and Ark (10+). A lot of the posts talk about the leather seats on the Avalon not being as comfy as earlier editions. Would like feedback from owners.
#296 of 491 Re: 2012 Avalon [ncee]
Jan 22, 2013 (7:44 am)
I've been following your journey here. So sorry the 2013 didn't work out for you, as I know you were so anticipating its arrival. So was I. I just couldn't get past that grill. I'm sure you'll have many good years in your 2012.