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#226 of 494 Re: test drove [ncee]
by empoweredbc
Dec 12, 2012 (8:19 pm)
Who said it was a "sporty car"?
Toyota is trying to bring in younger buyers. Period.
This car will DEFINITELY bring in a younger clientele. They don't want a storm of 65-year olds looking for a Japanese Buick. That's not a good long-term strategy. They need younger buyers long-term.
The old car was fine, but this is clearly a better car. Style, economy, interior, less weight, better tech. It's not even really close either.
It gives up some room, and some softer ride quality, but it more than makes up for it with a balance of virtues.
The 2012 Avalon is lame to the vast majority of the market. This car is desirable. A very new word to associate with the Avalon. There's a first time for everything.
Dec 13, 2012 (12:13 pm)
you'll be a fool to think toyota wasnt aiming to be sporty with this new avalon.you cant tailor your entire selection of cars to please a certain demographic.that younger clienetele does get old also.i say fire the 25yr old who designed it.he could of easily pleased grampa and 29yr old billy with a car that didnt straight up copy a azera.the car is nice but it's more of a touched up camry.the 2011-2012 avalon was never lame.it was a elegant car that was purchased by smart 'buyers who couldn't see themselves blowing 10,000$ more on the same exact car,only with the LEXUS badge on it! let's see how desirable the 2013 will be after the sales figures come in
#228 of 494 Re: sporty [djrc08861]
by empoweredbc
Dec 13, 2012 (1:35 pm)
Just because it is sportier than the 2012 Avalon, doesn't make it a "sporty car". I know school buses that are sportier than the 2012 Avalon
And what are you bringing up Azera for? Azera came out 8-9 months ago? How did anybody copy that?
Toyota wants to sell 50-6k a month, which is much more than the 25k a year the current car sells, and they will get there. It is getting great press, and does many things better than the current class leaders, LaCrosse, Maxima, and 300
#229 of 494 Re: sporty [empoweredbc]
by djrc08861
Dec 13, 2012 (4:56 pm)
azera could of came out 10yrs ago! doesn't matter.the back of the 2013 avalon is an exact replica.lets not even get started on the avalon's front snow plow grill. if a super thick nascar steering wheel and an extra wide gear shift doesn't make it look sporty,i dont know what does. damn near every youtube review of the car also labels it sporty. if you think it will sell 25k plus a year,more power to you
#230 of 494 Re: sporty [djrc08861]
by empoweredbc
Dec 13, 2012 (5:55 pm)
Nissan Maxima and Buick LaCRosse sells 5k a month.
If they can do it, so can Avalon. It's a better car.
#231 of 494 Re: Seattle Auto Show [ncee]
by bwia
Dec 14, 2012 (6:22 am)
They offered $22,000.00 trade towards $42,000.00.
Thanks Skip for sharing that information. If you are happy with your trade and you are happy with your 2013 Avy Limited that's all that counts. Once again congrats on the purchase of your "sporty" new wheels.
On a related note, through the Consumer Reports buying program, a local dealer in Boston is offering $37,500 on a $42,200 MRSP. Not a bad price, but I just wanted to gauge the merit or value of CR's buying program. Has anyone used this program and did the dealer honored their commitment?
#232 of 494 Re: Seattle Auto Show [bwia]
by ncee
Dec 14, 2012 (6:14 am)
$22,000.00??? I got OVER $25,000.00 for my car in-trade?
Skip
#233 of 494 Re: Seattle Auto Show [ncee]
by bwia
Dec 14, 2012 (6:30 am)
$22,000.00??? I got OVER $25,000.00 for my car in-trade?
Don't mean to be disrespectful but these were your numbers quoted directly from your earlier post. Obviously, there was a miscommunication but I just wanted to make that clear. I hope no offense is taken because it was not intended.
Now back to the 2013 Toyota Avalon....feed the forum.
#234 of 494 Re: Edmunds/Inside Line is mighty impressed with the all-new Avalon! [empoweredbc]
by luckyme1
Dec 14, 2012 (7:32 am)
Both the Avalon Hybrid and V6 are very refined. However, the Hybrid 4 cyl. while under acceleration is more noticed. When in all electric, it is very hushed.
I drive a 2012 Camry Hybrid, and it is one of the nicest hybrid systems on the market.
We planned to get the Avalon Hybrid, but after my wife drove the V6, we decided to get the V6 Limited instead. Either car is a nice combination of style, class and performance.
Everyone has opinions and likes/dislikes of interiors, exterior style, etc.
We found that the interior layout, controls and overall quality of the new Avalon's interior to be quite nice. The front grill (especially on a Pearl White, as my wife is getting) will have to grow on us.
The outgoing Avalon is still a very nice car, and will serve it's owners well. But, Toyota needed a major redirection for that car, as the demographics were not working for it anymore, as sales had been slipping every year. I believe the new style will sell very well.
#235 of 494 Re: Edmunds/Inside Line is mighty impressed with the all-new Avalon! [luckyme1]
by tjc78
Dec 14, 2012 (7:48 am)
as sales had been slipping every year.
The sales were slipping because it was a stale model. It hadn't changed since 2005! Any model that goes that long without a major redo will have declining sales.
When the 05 came out it was a huge hit. I remember reading the forums here and people were having a tough time getting the one they wanted and dealers were not lowering prices.
If you look at the charts the 2000-2004 Avalon suffered the same sales loss as the model aged:
2000 104,078
2001 83,005
2002 69,029
2003 50,911
2004 36,460
2005 95,318
2006 88,938
2007 72,945
2008 42,790
2009 26,935
2010 28,390
2011 28,925
I'd wager that Toyota does not even come close to equaling the 2005 sales total.