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#216 of 716 Re: Edmunds/Inside Line is mighty impressed with the all-new Avalon! [empoweredbc]
Dec 10, 2012 (7:13 am)
The Avalon Hybrid is quiet, no doubt. But the 3.5 V6 is certainly smoother, refined and more quiet than the hybrids gas engine. Of course when running on electric only, no gas engine will be less noticed, but that is only under very low load. The gas engine will be on the vast majority of the time. The Toyota hybrid combination is very nice, but you will certainly hear that 4 cyl. when under heavier acceleration. Once cruising, you'll not detect much difference, except in fuel economy.
Having driven the 2012 Camry Hybrid for a year now, it is a very well built hybrid. Real world mileage is 40 mpg. Being the same powertrain in the Avalon, it will perform very similar. We chose the V6 in the Avalon, as we preferred that powertrain. The 6 speed tranny is splendid.
#217 of 716 Re: Edmunds/Inside Line is mighty impressed with the all-new Avalon! [luckyme1]
Dec 10, 2012 (10:31 am)
"Avalon engineers stole a move from the Lexus playbook by creating safe-room silence inside. At 59.8 decibels the Avalon recorded one of the lowest 70-mph cruise noise readings we've measured in any car in recent memory — including such costly equipment as the Bentley Continental GT (61.6 decibels) and the Audi A8 L (60.9 decibels)"
Until the V6 is tested, the hybrid Avalon is the new King of Smooth!
#218 of 716 The 2013 Avalon test drive
Dec 11, 2012 (8:45 am)
I just drove the av 2013. I have to say I was disappointed room wise and the new instrument panel. I love my 2011 that I purchased in 2010. So I marked the 2013 off my list and just found the same cypress green in a 2012 at a great price under invoice, and great trade in for my almost 38 thousand mile Av. It was a no brainer for me, just did not like what they did inside the 2013, it didn't inspire me to buy it. My dealer told me other people have also been disappointed. So with all the hype for styling which was true, other factors turned me off. They also reduced the gas tank so it no longer holds 18 gallons, it's 16 something gas tank, and a smaller spare and no aluminum scuff plate on entering the car, replaced with plastic. So just got turned off.
#219 of 716 Re: The 2013 Avalon test drive [marv15]
Dec 11, 2012 (10:02 am)
Fuel tank is 17.0 gallons, which would give you a range of 425 in the V6, based on 25 MPG combined, and 680 in the hybrid.
Something tells me that's better than the 2012.
#220 of 716 Re: The 2013 Avalon test drive [marv15]
Dec 11, 2012 (10:52 am)
Well, hold on there little tiger.
The LTD has Aluminum Scuff plates (At least mine does)
Was Fuel Tank 18.5 gals, now 17
Now are other people disappointed, likely, if they are looking for a Luxury car. This is a Sports / Luxury car, not a Luxury / Sports car.
Not totally sure I would have purchased it if not for a few reasons, we won't get into.
My 2011 Avalon was more comfortable - in a plush/floaty way (I believe).
My 2011 was bigger inside,
My 2011 had a Full Size Spare,
My 2011's trunk may have been smaller, but it WAS easier to get into, and fill with stuff.
My 2011 had reclining rear seats (which my passengers really liked)
With the filler neck likely holding .5 gals of fuel, the 2012 has a range of 60+- miles to a full tank of gas, more then the 2013:(
Now, while I'm saying nice things about the 2011 Avalon, I can say, each day I drive my 2013 I'm liking it more and more.
#221 of 716 Re: The 2013 Avalon test drive [marv15]
Dec 11, 2012 (11:27 am)
i got the 2012 green.bought in june.1500miles on it now.beautiful
#222 of 716 Re: The 2013 Avalon test drive [ncee]
Dec 11, 2012 (11:29 am)
With all those comments it is hard to believe that you aren't already having buyer's remorse with the 2013. I am glad that you are enjoying the car. It sounds to me that Yota is trying to move the Avalon away from being a Japanese Buick and more to being a solid competior to the Maxima, 300, and Hyundai Genesis.
I did see one at the local Toyota dealer in a dark grey. That color makes the big mouth bass grille look a little tamed down.
Dec 11, 2012 (3:03 pm)
test drove a xls today.i have a 2012 limited.the 2013 seats are alot more comfortable.the side body curves on the car are beautiful.the inside is the bad part.it looks more like a touched up camry.not a inch of the 2013 says luxury. defenitely more sporty with its suoer thick steering wheel and its wide gear shift.stitch is nice but the plastic throughout the car really sticks out.also not as much space inside as the 2012.defenitely more sporty.toyota should of invented a totally different name instead of calling it a avalon!
#224 of 716 Surprised more people.....
Dec 11, 2012 (5:53 pm)
Don't seem willing to trade some room and conservative luxury for more style, tech, and efficiency. The new car is clearly a better car, but it's not a Buick LaSabre anymore. If that's what you want, you know where to go.
#225 of 716 Re: test drove [djrc08861]
Dec 12, 2012 (4:31 pm)
I agree. Toyota SHOULD have come up with a new sports car and made the Avalon a truly luxurious car. I personally think they missed the boat.
An Avalon was NEVER considered a sporty car, so why try to make it something it's not?
The car WILL sell well, but it will be curious to see if they push it towards a luxury car or sports car in future models.
It will be interesting to see what CNET (The Car Tech Guy?) has to say about the car - if he does a review on it. It will also be interesting to see what MotorWeek has to say about the car, if they do a video test drive of it.