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2012 - 2013 Toyota Avalon

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#22 of 491 Re: yes É 2013 Avalon:) [jeffm5] by ushy66

Apr 05, 2012 (11:36 pm)

Replying to: jeffm5 (Apr 05, 2012 4:15 pm)
While I do like some elements of the front grill design, I agree it's a bit over the top---looks too much like the grill of the Hyundai Hybrid Sonata. I had hoped the design team in Ann Arbor would have come up with a better front end design closer to the front of the Tesla Model S Sedan ( http://www.teslamotors.com/models/gallery) which has a much better look with more graceful lines/appearance. However, since many of you all seem to not like the front end/grill appearance, keep up the chatter so Toyota will perhaps listen and modify the design to one that is more acceptable to more folks, as the final design may not yet be etched in stone. The new Avalon will probably not begin production for 1-3 months.
 
Jake

#23 of 491 I thought that the 4runner was hideous by obyone

Apr 08, 2012 (12:39 am)

This big mouth bass approach surely will turn off a lot of owners thinking of upgrading.
 

 
Still the best looking Toyota
 

#24 of 491 Re: I thought that the 4runner was hideous [obyone] by carlupi

Apr 08, 2012 (5:27 pm)

Replying to: obyone (Apr 08, 2012 12:39 am)
I truly hope the 2013 Avalon does NOT have that hideous front design. The upper part looks like a hump whale with a Camry grill slapped on; the lower grille is ....well just plain UGLY.

#25 of 491 2013 Avalon É grows on you? by ncee

Apr 09, 2012 (4:38 am)

Well if it looks as nice in person as it does in pictures, I'll keep my 2013 Dark Blue LTD one on order, and be real happy when I get it.
 
- Quieter?
- Low Noise Glass / Wipers?
- Much Classier inside and out - IMO
- Although it's only a bit smaller - not liking that (Yet)
- AWD?
- ??? $?
- Fuel economy
- Quieter and smother ride
 
Rear seems to have more control, over the heat / air, that could be nice.
 
Trunk doesn't look like it will be easy to get big things in and out of?
 
Some of the above could sway me one way or the other.
 
If I didn't have 3 business meeting here Saturday, I was all set to drive to NY, and check it out in person. Now I'll have to wait like everyone else until it hit's the dealers showroom floor.
 
Now it's just a waiting game to see reviews from the industry to see what they have to say, that's if the reviews come in before we get to check it out in person. And reviews on cars are pretty much like reviews on just about everything else - nice guidelines for things to look out for, but by no means the final reason to buy or not buy anything.
 
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I will say, after checking out all the colors, the Cypress Pearl looks kind of nice, rich, interesting?

#26 of 491 2013 Avalon Changes É your thoughts by ncee

Apr 09, 2012 (5:02 am)

Ok, so what would you like changed and what do you hope the 2013 Avalon has or keeps from previous models?
 
Keeps:
 
- Rear Window Shade
- Smooth and quiet run (BUT is even BETTER)
- Reasonable pricing
 
Has or are options:
 
- Rear Window Shade (it looks like it does have one)
- AWD
- Rear Window Passenger Shades
- Redesigned Grill (maybe 20% smaller)
- GPS that can be used while driving (maybe a button on passengers side, for them)
- GPS that can be up-dated by owners via email / internet
- GPS you can up-load routes to (love this feature on my Garmin)
- A bit better fit & finish. Mines nice, but not great, and the paint seems to scratch to easy.
- Door Handle Scratch Guards. (Clear Poly is fine with me)
- Left-hand side coin tray (great for tools and self service car washes)
 
Has or is changed from what we see so far:
 
- Smaller Grill (20% smaller would be nice)
- Larger Trunk Opening
- A Fancy "A" Logo for all the marking on the car (Instead of the "T" symbol).
 
Entune? If you have to be stopped to use it?
Entune? If you have to have a "Smart Phone" to get the most out of it?
Entune? If it's a pay for service, how much for what?
 
I travel a fair amount, and IF the traffic part of Entunes works and is accurate, I'll like it.

#27 of 491 Re: 2013 Avalon Changes É your thoughts [ncee] by carlupi

Apr 10, 2012 (12:41 pm)

Replying to: ncee (Apr 09, 2012 5:02 am)
Keep:
-Excellent current ride, quietness, reliability and fuel efficiency
-Large interior space
 
Improves/New
-More leg room for driver (more aft travel of driver's seat; there is plenty of space behind it)
-More extension/further reach of telescopic steering wheel

#28 of 491 Re: yes É 2013 Avalon:) [potat0e] by bwia

Apr 10, 2012 (6:07 pm)

Replying to: potat0e (Apr 05, 2012 11:50 am)
Looks good but as others have mentioned that grill is out of character. Perhaps Toyota is smitten by the Audi and Chrysler 300 huge grill fettish but I'm not impressed.
 
Still don't like the dash and console. It looks dated and staid even before it hits the showroom but I can live with it. Infotainment/telematics is now common in the cheapest of autos so I'm hoping that Toyota will give us something that is intuitive and easy to use. Basically voice activation for all basic functions.
 
When it comes to price I am hoping that the top of the line should list for around $38K with navigation and the base model at $34K.

#29 of 491 The fave of the car, grill mouth by marv15

Apr 11, 2012 (2:27 pm)

Here is an excerpt "And speaking of faces: is that a gigantic chrome egg-crate- textured, horizontal water-melon hanging out of the front of the “all new, emotional” Toyota Avalon? Yet another “all new” Toyota face, another brand striving for consistent visual identity?
  
“Faces” on cars do matter, folks! And not that many car companies understand that."
from
http://www.forbes.com/sites/boblutz/2012/04/11/how-designers-put-a-face-on-cars/- 2/
 
This is the part of the new design I can't warm up to, it's overdone. I might stay with my 2011 Avalon.

#30 of 491 does anybody here believe this? by potat0e

Apr 15, 2012 (2:06 am)

The Detroit Free Press reports that the Japanese automaker told dealers at the National Automobile Dealers Association meeting in Las Vegas, NV recently that the next generation Avalon will get better fuel economy than the Fiat 500. Or, so this thing says:
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/08/next-toyota-avalon-to-best-fiat-500s-fuel-eco- nomy/
 
The big lower grill on the new design is getting a lot of criticism. I hope it looks better in person. It makes me think of Audis, which isn't bad.

#31 of 491 Big Grill overdone. by marv15

Apr 15, 2012 (12:52 pm)

I don't mind a couple of dings on my front bumper, but now there is none. Also, if in NJ, where do you put the front license plate, unless they did away with it. Make the grill a little smaller, move it up to take the place of where the Toyota insignia is, and center it (replacing the smaller grill opening) between the head lights where the narrow smaller opening now is. Then you have an overall winner, and a car with a bumper returned (slightly ahead of the grill so if touched by another car, in parking, the bumper is touched first, not the grill) and a place to hang a plate. Just my humble thoughts. Other then that, this sounds like the best Avalon to date. If they do this, I'm a buyer. I hope they see the light and make the change. That seems to be the major complaint from all I've been reading, hopefully they read it too. As it is, I won't buy it, it's not practical. They didn't think it through. When they got rid of the old real chrome steel bumpers, to plastic that was one thing, but to get rid of a bumper in the front is nuts. Good luck to all.

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