Last post on Jun 17, 2013 at 2:44 PM
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Toyota Avalon, Toyota, Sedan
#562 of 571 Re: 2013 Avalon [poorthingflint]
Jun 15, 2013 (1:47 pm)
Thank you for this information. I appreciate it. I'll look for it in my automotive store.
#563 of 571 Re: Avalon 2013 ride (CR reports?) [havec]
Jun 15, 2013 (1:53 pm)
Wow, this is really interesting regarding the wheel size and tires. You would think that the Toyota would go standard with Michelins instead of using the Bridgestones. I don't understand why some of the cars are coming with Michelins on them and others, like mine, are coming with Bridgestones.
I am getting more used to the firm ride and I love the seats, they are comfortable to me. I think it was just a shock to me about the change in the suspension and ride coming from my 06 Avalon, but I'm getting over it. Otherwise, I think Toyota did a great job on the redesign. It really does look much more sporty.
#564 of 571 Re: 2013 Avalon [tjc78]
Jun 15, 2013 (1:57 pm)
Thank you for this suggestion. I will take a look at this one as well.
#565 of 571 Re: Avalon 2013 ride (CR reports?) [teresa01]
Jun 15, 2013 (2:27 pm)
My local tire dealer didn't have much very nice to say about the Bridgestones either. Then again he is a tire dealer selling tires. The Camry hybrid comes with the same exact Bridgestone tire as the Avalon hybrid and gets a better ride score than the Avalon. CR may have rated the old Avalon as having a nice pillow soft ride but they rated the emergency handling as poor. Toyota can't win with CR with this car.
#566 of 571 Toyota obviously signed their life away to Bridgestone
Jun 16, 2013 (9:57 pm)
Even the iconic Lexus LFA sported the ancient Bridgestone RE070 over clearly superior, and easily more modern, performance rubber currently available.
Bridgestone must have paid Toyota a small fortune for the account.
#567 of 571 Re: Avalon 2013 ride (CR reports?) [havec]
Jun 17, 2013 (4:35 am)
My local tire dealer didn't have much very nice to say about the Bridgestones either. Then again he is a tire dealer selling tires.
Personally, I don't think car tires are as noisy as some claim. Cabin noise comes from three major sources---engine noise, wind noise and tire noise. Automakers use quiet glass to eliminate wind noise and sound deadening materials, noise cancellation technology and insulation to block engine noise.
Unfortunately, these measures have made the cabin so whisper quiet that tire road noises sound louder than they really are. Tire noise is a matter of physics--the noise does not really come from the tire compound itself but rather from the air pockets created when the tire makes contact with the road surface. So you can waste your money switching to a different brand but the tire decibel level will not change appreciable.
#568 of 571 Re: Avalon 2013 ride (CR reports?) [bwia]
Jun 17, 2013 (4:45 am)
Oh, contra my friend. It can be and is as big an issue as some are making out of it.
In my case, I had to turn my radio up to 20+ on the volume to hear it, and not the tire noise:(
#569 of 571 Re: Avalon 2013 ride (CR reports?) [bwia]
Jun 17, 2013 (4:59 am)
Wow! You have come up with some interesting theories about perceived tire noises. I am 73yrs old and spent most of my life in the automobile service and repair business. I can assure you,I have identified and solved many a noisy tire problems in my time. Personal experience with awful tire noises from a set of new "Stones" was one of the worst examples I ever personal ever delt with. They where on a new Lexus I owned and getting them replaced with another set of tires transformed the car for the better in all respects. So with all due respect I strongly disagree with your hypothisis.
#570 of 571 Re: 2013 Avalon [poorthingflint]
Jun 17, 2013 (10:13 am)
Yes, that's a good product, and using it is a good idea. I would point out though, having had 4 of them, that the Lexus leather used is impervious to UV rays and other aging factors. It's amazing. I had a 96 ES up until last year, sat in the Nevada sun for 16 years, and the leather seats still looked, felt and functions just like new, with no treatment. - so while Meguires is awesome, that probably isn't the factor you may think.
#571 of 571 Re: 2013 Avalon [nvbanker]
Jun 17, 2013 (2:44 pm)
Thanks for your real world experience input. Perhaps I will be less diligent in my leather treatments but it makes me feel better even if the seats are not benefiting that much if any. Old habits die hard,but at least there is no evidence I have caused any problems by over maintaining my interiors and it makes the leather look better.