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#4 of 26 Re: 2006 Honda Civic with 100k miles-Worth it? [isellhondas]
Aug 01, 2011 (3:29 am)
Ha.....Honda stepped in because their "stellar" name was being dragged through the mud and for no other reason. It sounds great, this extended warranty they were forced to issue and frankly it is a good thing but this issue was first made known to Honda service personnel via a TSB in the summer of 2006. I saw it and yet the issue continued through the 2006-2007 and some of the 2008 model years. At least if you look at various complaint sites you will find owners of 2008's still complaining of having cracked blocks yet I received my extended warranty early this year. So, why did Honda take from 2006 to 2011 to finally address this "isolated issue"? Anyhow, early problems were being foisted off as everything from a lack of routine maintainance, not having that maintainance done at an authorized Honda dealer, lack of regular oil changes etc, etc. (anything to get off the hook to avoid paying the cost of a short block). Owners were being asked to foot the entire bill (upwards of $5000), a variable or sliding percentage of the bill (if one bitched but not hard enough)or if one really bitched to Honda, got an new engine installed for next to nothing. In reality this is either a metalurgical issue, a casting issue or an engineering problem and had nothing at all to do with owners changing the oil or where they did it. So, for you to say Honda "stepped up" is a joke, they had little choice in the matter because owners were complaining loudly to anyone who would listen. To this perspective buyer I say...buyer beware!!! You may be retired but.......
#5 of 26 Re: 2006 Honda Civic with 100k miles-Worth it? [targettuning]
Aug 02, 2011 (7:23 am)
Problems will always get over amplified in the complaint sites no matter what the product.
So, it sounds like you think it's a bad thing when a company like Honda takes care of customers with cars well beyond the warranty period?
I find that amazing.
So much for appreciating a company that tries to do the right thing.
And, sorry to spoil your fun but I did check in and actually very few cars were affected.
And, Honda didn't have "little choice" they could have chosen to do nothing as othere car manufacuters may have done.
#6 of 26 Re: 2006 Honda Civic with 100k miles-Worth it? [isellhondas]
Aug 03, 2011 (4:04 am)
Yeah sure, and I believe that Honda "tried to do the RIGHT thing" out of the goodness of their tight fisted little corporate hearts especially after they instructed their dealers not to replace these "few" cracked blocks for customers under any kind uniform guidelines unless (and maybe not then) a strict paper trail could be established that the customer jumped through all the hoops Honda Corporate placed in the way. Hoops you say? yeah, that ALL services were performed at a dealership including oil changes done by the book ( when you and I know that oil changes had absolutely nothing to do with the problem), these demands and others had irrate customers screaming at Honda and, as I said, how loudly and strongly one screamed decided, if and how much Honda shelled out to supplement the hefty engine replacement bill. So, after nearly 5 years of this random "help on a sliding scale" Honda finally saw the negative publicity and decided that extending the warranty was the most cost effective thing to do as opposed to the smear on the lofty Honda reputation so guess what they did? Further if you would re-read my post I said it was a good thing in the end even though it was 5 years in the making. Especially since I have a 2006 Civic but don't get up on your corporate high horse and start telling me and others that Honda cares like no other in the car manufacturing world, that is crap of the highest order. What I find amazing is that you say you are retired but once a Honda'ite always a Honda'ite... yes? Finally, it isn't fun for me to drive a car that has the potential to destroy its much applauded Honda engineered engine nor was it much fun most likely for those who had this issue appear out of nowhere, nor was it much fun for those who fought with Honda for 5 years and at least 3 model years of Civics and ended up paying anywhere from 100% of the $5000 or so bill downward but still paying something for Honda's mistakes. All bow down to Honda right. I'm glad it is finally being recognized Honda isn't God's own ride. Finally...finally, tell us how you were able to find that very few cars were affected when I was never able to put a percentage on it, but I guess 10,000 out a million is very little. Notice folks these aren't the actual numbers but a ratio for the sake illustrating of what "very few" constitutes.
In closing to the perspective buyer and all perspective buyers of 2006-07-08 Civics, buyer beware in spite of Mr. isellhondas reassurances.
#7 of 26 Re: 2006 Honda Civic with 100k miles-Worth it? [targettuning]
Aug 03, 2011 (9:34 am)
You are obviously hostile and you seem to know everything about this. You don't so let's just leave it at that.
Honda has never required that oil changes be done at a dealer for the warranty to apply.
If they tear open an engine and it's full of sludge and shows signs of being neglected, that is a different story and a story that woulde apply to any make.
If you are that unhappy with Honda you should probably buy something different. Just try to find a car next time that will never ever have any kind of a problem and try to find a ca company that takes better care of their of their customers.
The sky really isn't falling.
#8 of 26 Re: 2006 Honda Civic with 100k miles-Worth it? [isellhondas]
Aug 08, 2011 (5:19 am)
Nope, not hostile just accurate as opposed to the "Honda is best" posts and yes, I do know everything about this because my car (actually my previous car) was affected and knowledge is power. Clearly they are not infallable. Normally, oil changes are not dealer only for warranty claims but for this particular problem it was one of those "hoops" to jump through Honda placed in owners way, easier to deny someone that way. As of Thursday I now own "something else" and hopefully they will "take care of me" as well as you would like others to believe Honda will. Whether they actually do is up for debate. Bye now..enjoy Honda.
#9 of 26 Re: 2006 Honda Civic with 100k miles-Worth it? [targettuning]
Aug 08, 2011 (8:18 am)
Well, I sure hope your "something else" never, ever gives you a problem!
#10 of 26 2006 Civic - Great Experience
Aug 15, 2011 (1:05 pm)
I've owned my Civic since June of 2006 and it's been the best car I've ever owned! I did have some warranty issues, 2 TSB's were performed, and the car has been flawless ever since. I've been reading this guys complaints for years and sure, some cars will have problems, but to stay away from every Civic is ludacris to say the least! And I'd bet there are more positive stories like mine than negative ones. People who've had bad experiences will naturally say the whole company stinks...whatever! As long as it checks out with your mechanic and you really want to buy it, go ahead then. And I'd believe Isell, as he's been a straight shooter since I've been in here and if he says something...you can believe it 100%.
Good luck with whatever you do. An extremely happy Civic owner...I am,
#11 of 26 Re: 2006 Civic - Great Experience [sandman_6472]
Aug 16, 2011 (4:14 am)
Well, aside from some other relatively minor issues mine was reliable as well. However, since the "cracked block" problem can occur at any time without warning I would say...yeah, by all means check out the specific car before purchase BUT everything may be perfectly fine now and maybe for thousands of miles but if/when the cracks appear you are screwed right now. Once these crack they quickly overheat and then things go from bad to much worse !!! Further, I remain, not anti-Honda, but lets say the other side of the "I love Honda" coin and think it is only fair to point out that multiple model years (2006-07-08) have the very real potential to self destruct extended warranty or not. Isell does not disclose everything nor it seems will he give the bad as well as the good. Simply stated these model year Civics are rolling time bombs with regard to engine failure. Why else do you think Honda corporate issued this extended warranty? The are aware of this flaw and have been for years ( a service bulletin was issued in the summer of 2006 regarding this, look it up). I continue to say, "buyer beware" on these, but suit yourself.
#12 of 26 Re: 2006 Civic - Great Experience [targettuning]
Aug 16, 2011 (10:32 am)
When you use a term like "rolling time bomb" you just make yourself look silly.
Honda extended the warranty because they bacame aware that there were some isolated problems and they wanted to step up to the place and take care of the affected cars.
It's funny. when they do this, it isn't appreciated by some people. Kinda makes me wonder why they bother.
I have zero problems with people who don't like Hondas. They should simply buy something else if they are that unhappy.
No sense sitting aroud wringing your hands waiting for the sky to fall when there are so many other choices out there!
Aug 16, 2011 (4:52 pm)
This is getting silly now...really! I'd still bet the number of cases with this issue are minimal and Honda has a procedure in place to deal with it. If the car checks out, buy it. And if not, move on to the next choice. Every car could have problems, them being machines and all, but eventually one must buy a car. Good luck. Also, my "rolling time bomb" made it through another day today and got me back and forth safely to my medical appointment...the "sky is not falling"!