Last post on Aug 20, 2013 at 7:48 PM
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Saturn S-Series, Sedan
#73 of 82 Re: hey [saturntech9]
Aug 05, 2013 (3:14 pm)
Yeah, and to think when I first got this car for the overheating issue it had back in April or early May one of the first things I did was call a friend from church over with his compression tester and the readings were 170+ for all cylinders! Who knew just a few months later that this was gonna happen, but to be perfectly honest the amount of noise that timing chain was making then was an accident looking for a time and place to happen. I told this guy not to wait too long to look into making it right, but people get caught up in other things and well, this is one of those times where it comes back to bite you in the butt.
I left a message on my friend Izzy's phone and he called me around 5PM and I told him the bad news and that in my opinion his best option was to call a salvage yard where they pick up the car and pay you for it, and he agreed. He can't afford to sink any more $$$ into this nearly 20 year old car that as I said before has a host of other issues that would need to be addressed ASAP, like the passenger side axle shaft for starters. It's kind of a shame too, I believe this head was rather recently replaced because it certainly looks clean. I had my valve cover off about a month ago and my springs and such were quite dirty and I have 50K less miles on mine than his. Maybe I should have done the compression right after he had the car towed here, but I was trying to sort through the mess that the uncle made and after I restored spark I wanted to tear that timing cover off and was stunned to find the guides missing and wondered how the thing ran as long as it did.
So that's gonna do it, this chapter is coming to a close. One of the last things I bought for his car on Saturday morning after work was a new top front motor mount. I think we talked about this before. His old one came out in pieces when I took it off the week before. But mine is bad on my 96 so he told me to just swap them out before anyone comes to pick up his car. Now he paid me for it last Friday night, so I'll just give him the money back. I do appreciate all your help with this car, Lou. Take car and may God Bless always! (Mike)
#74 of 82 Re: hey [shopdog97]
Aug 05, 2013 (3:51 pm)
Your welcome too bad it was a unhappy ending.I guess we will be talking the next time you have another Saturn problem. Take care and god bless you too.
#75 of 82 Re: hey [saturntech9]
Aug 12, 2013 (5:57 am)
Well, a rollback came here Saturday(10th)morning and picked up my friend's Saturn. They gave him $350 for it which is just what he paid for it 6 months ago. Not too bad, all things considered. And yes, I DO have another Saturn issue probably right up your alley. My neighbor George has an Ion, I THINK it's an '04 or '05,(I can check if it matters) and he told me Saturday while I was waiting for the salvage guy that he's been having trouble with his clutch. Remember when I was having the same issue a few months ago? Well, he tells me that his pedal STICKS to the floor at times, not all the time but it's been happening more frequently as of late. I believe I remember you telling me that the likely cause was the slave cylinder, at least on mine, but MY pedal never stuck at any time. Now today I was at our local public library and I looked through a Chilton's manual on the Ion and went to the clutch section and this model is WAY different from the SL's. They say you can actually bleed the system, and the clutch master cylinder actually shares fluid from the BRAKE master cylinder. Is this correct?
And the book says that to change the slave, you have to take the tranny out? That CAN'T be right! There seems to be a bleed nipple right in front of the slave. I wonder if I should suggest to George to bleed the system first and see if that helps, or would we be wasting our time? Went onto the Rockauto site for parts and WOW, are those parts expensive or what?? In any case, the Chilton's troubleshooting section says that a sticking pedal could be either the slave OR the master cylinder binding up or sticking. Now I haven't had time for a real good look at it, so any info you can give me on this model would be helpful. Were you fond of the Ion's? Let me know what you think. Have a great day!
#76 of 82 Re: hey [shopdog97]
Aug 12, 2013 (12:12 pm)
Yes you have to remove the transmission to replace the slave.Look under the car where the transmission see if the clutch bell housing is wet from the slave leaking?I like the ions my niece bought a 2003 ion new she still has it.I wouldn't bother bleeding it.Most likely you will be replacing the slave and master.
#77 of 82 Re: hey [saturntech9]
Aug 17, 2013 (11:32 am)
Got another one for you, Lou. Not sure if I told you or not that I tried to use high-temp adhesive for the little pipe that goes into the front of the muffler in an attempt save it. Well, that failed and I tried JB Weld putty that you knead in your fingers and fill in the holes. I cleaned off the old stuff as best I could. Got nearly a week out of it, then I tried JB Weld epoxy putty. You probably used it before, you take a piece off and knead it and put it over the hole. Got hard as a rock in no time. Now I did this last Sunday and here we are Saturday and guess what, this didn't make it either.
But now I'm getting a service engine light coming on(and staying on, as of Thursday) and the code # is PO420, catalyst system effieciency below threshold(Bank 1) Does this mean my Catalytic converter is going bad?Or could it have something to do with the fact that this muffler inlet pipe is so bad that there's no back pressure allowed to build because of the leaky muffler?
Could my problems be solved by just changing the muffler? Please advise and as always, thank you kindly!!
#78 of 82 Re: hey [shopdog97]
Aug 17, 2013 (8:55 pm)
Looks like your just going to have to get a new muffler.As far as the code P0420 bad cat nothing to do with the muffler.
#79 of 82 Re: hey [saturntech9]
Aug 18, 2013 (1:00 pm)
Now all it has to do is rain MONEY around here and I'm in business! If the cat is that bad I'm probably going to have a problem getting the car to pass emissions inspection which is due at the end of August. The owner of the garage I go to is fairly lenient, so maybe I can luck out or opt for an emissions waiver. But I have another question for you that has nothing to do with Saturns. (Hope nobody minds if I switch from Saturns to a Chevy truck!)
Another friend of mine has an '03 Chevy Silverado with the 5.3 V-8 engine. I scanned his computer yesterday and there are 2 codes set. One is PO446, and the other is PO452. Both are emissions related. I posted this question in the Chevy Silverado forum, but no answer yet. Would you know what sensor/component could be bad in this case? What should we look for? My friend Larry says he hasn't had check engine light come on since he's had the truck from new! And when I asked him if he ever had a tune up he said not to the best of his knowledge. The truck only has a little over 60K on it in 10 years, but if it were mine I definately would have replaced the plugs and wires LONG ago. He says it runs fine, but I started it after I scanned it and I thought the motor was running just slightly rough.
Let me know what you think about this "out of forum" issue with this truck and I thank you very much. (Mike)
Aug 18, 2013 (2:02 pm)
The code P0452 is evao vent control circuit and the P0452 is fuel tank pressure low voltage.I would start by seeing what the fuel tank pressure sensor reads on the scan tool.With the key in the run position with the gas cap off?You will need a advanced enough scan tool to be able to to read that sensor.Also you may need a professional scan tool to diagnose the other code that can open and close the vent valve.But I would start with the pressure sensor code.Because the sensor problem can cause the vent code.
#81 of 82 Re: hey [saturntech9]
Aug 20, 2013 (5:27 pm)
Thanks Lou, I'll tell my friend Larry that he should take the truck into the shop and let them do that more sophisticated testing that my scanner can't do. He's gonna have to bite the bullet on this one, like I said he's never even had a tune up on this truck. Long overdue in my opinion. Take care!!
#82 of 82 Re: hey [shopdog97]
Aug 20, 2013 (7:48 pm)
Your we lone anytime.