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Toyota Camry, Future Vehicle, Sedan
#85 of 257 Re: 2012 Camry is a DEATH TRAP!!!!!!!!! [mrnadir]
Nov 09, 2011 (10:42 am)
Well, one person with this problem makes some say "So much for reliable Toyotas?"
There are going to be problems with a new generation car, from ANY manufacturer. The question is how will the car hold up over the next 100,000 plus miles? So far, Toyotas, Hondas, even the first year of a new generation, are very reliable over the long haul. However, unlike the past, most new cars are very reliable from ANY manufacturer.
The only problem is there is no data, including personal experiences, CR, and TrueDelta, that can give you a perfect picture of what is a reliable car. Your best bet is to use as many data sources as possible to get that information, and if you do this, Toyota & Honda still beat VW & many others for overall reliability. However, some don't care about that - fortunately, we live in a free country so you can choose what is important to you.
It will be interesting to watch the 2012 Camry to see how it goes. Will it be better than the old one? At first, the 2007 had some problems, but they seem to have cured those - CR had the 2007 Camry rated pretty low reliability-wise for a few years, but now it is above average, indicating the problems were fixed. Other data sources show the same as CR.
Best wishes to all with the 2012s - my guess, it will be a great car. My 2007 & 2010 are great! Had a few minor issues with the 2007, all easily corrected under warranty, been perfect for years ever since.
#86 of 257 Re: 2012 Camry LE weird sound [amberlamb]
Nov 09, 2011 (10:45 am)
I would take it back to the dealer, or even a different dealer, and have them go on a drive WITH you, and make sure they hear the noise. This is a BRAND new model, so there could be a problem that is unknown right now. At the least, you will get the complaint in the database, and Toyota Corporate will look into it, especially if it is happening to more than just your car.
Hang in there!
#87 of 257 Re: 2012 Camry LE weird sound [mcdawgg]
Nov 09, 2011 (2:28 pm)
Thanks for replying on that. The technician at the dealership, drove with me and noticed the same sound.
In addition to that I forgot to mention another sound that I am hearing - it is in the rear window on the passenger side.
When there is a cross breeze on the interstate, it makes kind of humming noise in the window(sounds like a loose window glass shaking. But everything looks fine with the door/window). The technician has noticed that too on other new Camrys. We dont have this sound on the rear window on drivers side.
#88 of 257 got kids?
by steve_ HOST
Nov 10, 2011 (12:37 pm)
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#89 of 257 Packaged Equipment for Camry 2012 by region
Nov 10, 2011 (6:12 pm)
It is my understanding that Camrys are packaged with different options depending on the region of the country. For example, here in the northeast it seems that all the SE V6 Camrys come bundled with the moonroof, leather seats and the convenience package. Is there a website that shows how cars are 'packaged' in different parts of the country?
#90 of 257 Re: Packaged Equipment for Camry 2012 by region [nynjbuyer]
Nov 11, 2011 (5:55 am)
Just use the Toyota.com website, and put in your location, and put in other locations. Or use Edmunds and put in different zip codes, and you can see how the cars are packaged. When I got my 6 speed manual Camry, they did not sell them in my region - I had to go a few hundred miles to a different region to get one.
#91 of 257 Not Impressed
Nov 13, 2011 (10:51 pm)
My Maxima lease is coming up soon, so I looked at the 2012 Camry this weekend out of curiosity. It was a loaded XLE V6. The initial impression from the exterior is that of a small car, and a pretty boring one at that. It looks more of an update to the 2002 Camry than the previous bulbous generation.
Hyundai, Kia and just about every other manufacturer must be laughing at Toyota's "latest". Heck, even the soon to be replaced Altima and Mazda 6 look and feel more upscale than this, and the Hyundai and Kia designs just blow it away.
Nothing looks premium or particularly special in the Camry. I didn't like the interior either. The material quality appears better than the previous generation, but the dynamics and aesthetics are very truck-like. The blocky dashboard and segmented areas look like a pickup interior. Nothing special whatsoever and certainly nothing to suggest anything approaching a "cheap Lexus". Just a gussied-up middle-market car.
I looked at the sticker and laughed... $33,000 !!!! No thanks, I'll keep my Maxima. I didn't even bother driving the Camry.
As I climbed back into the sexy, sinewy, feline lines of my snickering Maxima, the Germanic-like thunk of the door and the high quality two tone cockpit interior with perforated leather seats felt several classes above the Camry, at around the same price.
Boy, Toyota really lost it this time.. and to think, I used to drive Avalons.
#92 of 257 The camry 2011 XLE V6 better than 2012 XLE V6
Nov 15, 2011 (12:08 am)
The interior of the XLE V6 2012 looks like a Ford product which is of low quality. I just brought a Toyota Camry 2011 XLE V6 for $25,000 OTD with 8.75% taxes included in New Orleans. I am surprised that the 2011 Camry XLE V6 was alot smoother than the 2012 Camry XLE V6. The ride quality for the 2012 was bumpy even when i corrected the tire pressure to factory setting at 33psi. The 2012 has a few more gadgets and a tighter turning radius but that it. The 2011 had a better quality build to it and the 2011 rides smoother than the 2012.
I really wanted to buy the 2012 Camry for the new look but the 2011 had a nicer ride.
Nov 18, 2011 (12:55 pm)
I'll bet the reliability of Toyota products blows away those of any VW product hands down. Every manufacturer will have some problem cars, especially with a first yer model, so to make any blanket statement is just idiotic! I'd bet the JD Powers reliability figures place Toyota way above VW and many other brands. Just to be sure, I did test drive a new Jetta SE a few weeks ago and it was just...well, o k. The interior is definitely decontented as compared to the last generation and it drove just like the Ford Focus I had driven an hour previously. But was not an impressive car in any area...my current Civic felt more peppy even with it's smaller engine!
Will definitely have the wife try the Jetta but just don't think we'll even consider a purchase...just don't trust any VW product. And coming from our super reliable Mazda, think we'll stick with a foreign brand again unless the new Buick Verano really blows our socks off...and hoping it does as I really love the looks of it, even more than the Elantra.
#94 of 257 Re: 2012 Camry is a DEATH TRAP!!!!!!!!! [mcdawgg]
Nov 19, 2011 (9:31 am)
My wife's 04 Sienna had similar issue with the left steering sensor, which caused the complete lost of steering. Was just out of warranty and cost $600+. The van has been OK since.