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#233 of 257 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [diana31] by rikin

Oct 15, 2012 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: diana31 (Sep 14, 2012 10:44 am)
Even I have having the same problem. I got my 2012 Camry LE 4 cylinder in august and have 2k miles on it. But the avg. mileage shown on the odometer is just 25MPG. Which i think is very less as to what they have been advertising.
Mine is a 50/50 town to freeway driving.
What should I do?
Also how did you guys calculate the exact freeway mileage ??
I can check that out and see what am I getting.
 
Rikin

#234 of 257 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [rikin] by mcdawgg

Oct 15, 2012 (5:25 pm)

Replying to: rikin (Oct 15, 2012 1:54 pm)
Reset your odometer mpg when you fill your tank up to the first click of the pump. If you have never done this, your mpg will be too low. When the car is new, LOTS of idling takes place - testing, on and off car transporter, moving around car lot, etc. etc.
 
Fuel car, immediately get on freeway drive 65 mph for 100 miles straight with no city and see what the reading is. It will be around what the EPA says the mpg is for this car. The mpg rating is not what Toyota says, it is what the EPA tests show.
 
There are so many variables that pull down mpg. Many people think that there is something wrong with their car, but 99.9% of the time on a new car, there is nothing wrong. This is a very common complaint for all makes and models.
 
When you say 50/50 town to freeway, that means nothing. For one person, the 50% city could be in a LA traffic jam, where you are sitting still for a long time on the way to work, getting zero mpg. Another could be stopping at 30 traffic lights in 10 miles, averaging 20 mph, and another could be stopping at 5 lights in 10 miles, averaging 40 mph.
 
The only way to calculate exact mpg is to fuel up at the same pump to the first click (when the pump shuts off). Then reset one of your trip odometers. Drive until you get down to around a 1/4 tank. Fill up again at the same pump to the first click, then take your miles from trip odometer divided by total gallons from the pump. Or, you can track this for several or all tanks, keeping a total of all the miles and gallons.
 
I am sure you will find your car's mpg is fine and is fully capable of getting the EPA rated mpg.

#235 of 257 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [mcdawgg] by mcdawgg

Oct 16, 2012 (4:57 am)

Replying to: mcdawgg (Oct 15, 2012 5:25 pm)
Another thing - the switch to winter gas has happened in most places, so this will decrease your mpg a little - a mile or 2. Also, the colder it is outside, the more dense the air, so the more fuel is used to get the proper air/fuel ratio. This is the same for all cars.

#236 of 257 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [mcdawgg] by naatz1

Oct 16, 2012 (8:14 am)

Replying to: mcdawgg (Oct 15, 2012 5:25 pm)
Some excellent points made on this posting: reset the trip miles (I have both trip A & B on my XLE) and the digital MPG reading, which also resets the always visible analog meter MPG reading on the XLE. That way when you do your next fillup you can compare the trip miles divided by the gallons to what you have on your car computer MPG readings and see if it is accurate. For the first 8000 miles mine never varied more than .5 MPG, so I tend to believe my car computer's MPG ratings.
 
Compared to my last Sep 14 posting, I now show 32.3 MPG as the car computer average over around 4000 miles in mixed highway/city driving the past 2 mons. Our A/C is rarely used now unless for defrost when it's raining and we switched to winter gas, so I just measured a 370 mi fillup 11.8 gal 31.4 MPG with 35% city miles. Note my "city" is probably more "suburban" to most people since I have two 1 mile stretches with only one stop and the other few miles have stop lights averaging every few blocks on a typical drive to Target, Home Depot, restaurants or church. I plan to do another true winter measurement in December.
 
Reminder: put more air IN your tires in winter. Last night when it was 52 deg out I noticed mine are down to around 32 lbs, and they were at 35 in the summer. I will wait for a 30 deg morning and put them back up to 35 lbs.

#237 of 257 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [naatz1] by mcdawgg

Oct 16, 2012 (9:18 am)

Replying to: naatz1 (Oct 16, 2012 8:14 am)
Good point - most people forget about their tires. Air psi drops by 1 psi for every 10 degree F temperature decrease, so if it is 50 F outside, just fill your tires to 37 and they will be at 35 when the temp goes down to 30 F.
 
And, yes, if you do lots of short trips of less than 3 miles, your mpg will REALLY suffer, so you can't use that to say your mpg is bad.

#238 of 257 Re: Excellent Car [coches1] by seolbro

Oct 16, 2012 (4:42 pm)

Replying to: coches1 (Sep 30, 2012 7:17 pm)
For my driving I need the paddle shifters only when I have nothing else to do. The transmission does a fine job finding the right gear on its own. The shifter levers do look cool and they might be a resale feature.
 
I never seriously considered the LE so I have no comparison on the seat foam. After 3K miles I have found the seats to be very comfortable. Comfort is related to many things including height, weight and body shape. What works for me may not work for someone else.
 
I noticed at least one complaint about seat cloth durability in the LE. My SE has the textured cloth that is wearing well so far. Surprisingly, it does not produce a static build-up. I was shocked every time I exited my Accord.
 
BTW, I get 30 - 33 MPG consistently. My only problem was the trim on interior A pillar. It was a 20-minutes job to replace. I've adapted to the sterring wheel and love SiriusXM. Now that it's raining where I live I notice the Bridgestone Turanzas can break away when accelerating quickly from a dead stop. I hope Michelin is still making Pilot Exaltos when it comes replacement time. For my money: the best all season tires on the market.
 
The key choice factors on LE versus SE are exterior styling and handling. The SE has its own look while its steering and road grip are much tighter than what the LE (I had a loaner) offers.

#239 of 257 When does my 2011 Camry need a tuneup? by debbie68

Oct 18, 2012 (7:46 pm)

Hello all. Until last year, I owned a 2000 Camry and did a tune up every fall. Last fall I purchased a pre-owned Camry with 25K miles. I am now close to 37K. Should I automatically bring it in for a tune-up (new spark plugs, filters anything else looking amiss)? I do the oil change separately.
 
Thank you in advance!

#240 of 257 Re: When does my 2011 Camry need a tuneup? [debbie68] by mcdawgg

Oct 19, 2012 (4:54 am)

Replying to: debbie68 (Oct 18, 2012 7:46 pm)
Please check your owner's manual. It will tell you what needs to be done. Or check on this website, or Toyotaownersonline.com
 
Oil changes every 10k, or 1 per year, whatever comes first. Rotate tires every 5-8k.
 
No, at 30k miles, it only needs a new engine air filter, a new cabin air filter, and that's it. Those two items took me 10 minutes total to replace - very easy to do.
 
Hopefully, the place you purchased it already did those two things, because if they didn't, you are over-due.

#241 of 257 Re: When does my 2011 Camry need a tuneup? [mcdawgg] by debbie68

Oct 19, 2012 (12:18 pm)

Replying to: mcdawgg (Oct 19, 2012 4:54 am)
Thank you very much!!

#242 of 257 Re: When does my 2011 Camry need a tuneup? [debbie68] by mcdawgg

Oct 19, 2012 (5:48 pm)

Replying to: debbie68 (Oct 19, 2012 12:18 pm)
You are very welcome.
 
 I should also mention that the cabin air filter replacement is very very easy to do, and requires no tools. The instructions are even in the owner's manual. Get the filter at Toyota dealer or autoparts store. Doing it yourself saves about $30 vs having dealer do it. And it only takes 5 minutes.
 
Engine air filter only requires a socket wrench with a 4 inch extension bar, also a 5 minute job.
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