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#229 of 259 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [zahava] by bigbr225

Sep 16, 2012 (3:28 pm)

Replying to: zahava (Sep 14, 2012 9:57 pm)
Hi naatz1,
 
I have a similar driving stye as you and have around 11K miles on my 2012 toyota camry SE. I noticed yesterday that my front driver seat is freying as well. I also noticed the silver dash panel directly above my a/c fan knob is cracking as well. I took my car into the dealership and the manager took pictures of the damage. Since it was a Saturday he said he will have to get with the district manager on Monday and I should hear something from him by Tuesday afternoon. I have had my camry since late December 2011. Other then these two issue everything else has been fine. I'll keep you posted on what the dealership will do about these issues. I'm also leasing my camry as well. At this point I'm on the fence about keeping it after the lease.

#230 of 259 2012 Camry SE 4 c Louzy Mileage so far! by horsebytes

Sep 19, 2012 (10:23 am)

I do mostly highway driving and am getting 25 or 26mpg - less around town. I commute 100 miles round trip 3x a week.
 
 I do not have a lead foot and I have tested to see if it was worse or better using cruise control. I actually get slightly better mileage not using the cruise control! I reset the guage when I fill up. I have 4200 miles on my car so far. If it doesn't improve after my first oil change, I'll trade it in! Love everything else about it.

#231 of 259 Re: Excellent Car [seolbro] by coches1

Sep 30, 2012 (7:17 pm)

Replying to: seolbro (Aug 09, 2012 2:45 pm)
Hi seolbro
 
Great description of your new SE. Thanks!! You should work for Motor Trend.
 
I am debating between the SE and LE 2012 Camry. The principal difference
for me is the seats in the SE. What differences did you notice between the
SE and LE seats? The SE seats look better, the huge question is if the foam in
the SE seats are of a higher quality.
 
Realistically, when do you really need paddle shifters?? Alloy wheels look
good but the big difference is the seat comfort.
 
Looking forward to your response
 
coches1

#232 of 259 Re: Camry LE vs SE 2.5 by drjjjj

Oct 04, 2012 (4:05 pm)

Replying to: coches1 (Sep 30, 2012 7:17 pm)
SE adds firmer suspension (but still plenty compliant) alloys, sport interior which is about same as LE for comfort (I rented an LE first) full body kit, fogs, heated mirrors which together adds up to significant added value and better handling in the event of an emergency manuever (more common these days) Also, should yield better resale! I can get 40 mpg steady 65 and avg a little over 30mpg driving normal! The body seems plain jane, but it has a .28 drag co-which means it very aerodynamic (almost as slick as a prius) That's why we're getting compact car mileage in a mid size lexus like package! I'm very impressed! Picky Engineer that wouldn't touch direct injection or a cvt because of long term relibility issues! My local dealer is advertising SE 2.5 with power seat for $22K + T & L and 150 doc fee FYI -beat that!

#233 of 259 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [diana31] by rikin

Oct 15, 2012 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: diana31 (Sep 14, 2012 10:44 am)
Even I have having the same problem. I got my 2012 Camry LE 4 cylinder in august and have 2k miles on it. But the avg. mileage shown on the odometer is just 25MPG. Which i think is very less as to what they have been advertising.
Mine is a 50/50 town to freeway driving.
What should I do?
Also how did you guys calculate the exact freeway mileage ??
I can check that out and see what am I getting.
 
Rikin

#234 of 259 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [rikin] by mcdawgg

Oct 15, 2012 (5:25 pm)

Replying to: rikin (Oct 15, 2012 1:54 pm)
Reset your odometer mpg when you fill your tank up to the first click of the pump. If you have never done this, your mpg will be too low. When the car is new, LOTS of idling takes place - testing, on and off car transporter, moving around car lot, etc. etc.
 
Fuel car, immediately get on freeway drive 65 mph for 100 miles straight with no city and see what the reading is. It will be around what the EPA says the mpg is for this car. The mpg rating is not what Toyota says, it is what the EPA tests show.
 
There are so many variables that pull down mpg. Many people think that there is something wrong with their car, but 99.9% of the time on a new car, there is nothing wrong. This is a very common complaint for all makes and models.
 
When you say 50/50 town to freeway, that means nothing. For one person, the 50% city could be in a LA traffic jam, where you are sitting still for a long time on the way to work, getting zero mpg. Another could be stopping at 30 traffic lights in 10 miles, averaging 20 mph, and another could be stopping at 5 lights in 10 miles, averaging 40 mph.
 
The only way to calculate exact mpg is to fuel up at the same pump to the first click (when the pump shuts off). Then reset one of your trip odometers. Drive until you get down to around a 1/4 tank. Fill up again at the same pump to the first click, then take your miles from trip odometer divided by total gallons from the pump. Or, you can track this for several or all tanks, keeping a total of all the miles and gallons.
 
I am sure you will find your car's mpg is fine and is fully capable of getting the EPA rated mpg.

#235 of 259 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [mcdawgg] by mcdawgg

Oct 16, 2012 (4:57 am)

Replying to: mcdawgg (Oct 15, 2012 5:25 pm)
Another thing - the switch to winter gas has happened in most places, so this will decrease your mpg a little - a mile or 2. Also, the colder it is outside, the more dense the air, so the more fuel is used to get the proper air/fuel ratio. This is the same for all cars.

#236 of 259 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [mcdawgg] by naatz1

Oct 16, 2012 (8:14 am)

Replying to: mcdawgg (Oct 15, 2012 5:25 pm)
Some excellent points made on this posting: reset the trip miles (I have both trip A & B on my XLE) and the digital MPG reading, which also resets the always visible analog meter MPG reading on the XLE. That way when you do your next fillup you can compare the trip miles divided by the gallons to what you have on your car computer MPG readings and see if it is accurate. For the first 8000 miles mine never varied more than .5 MPG, so I tend to believe my car computer's MPG ratings.
 
Compared to my last Sep 14 posting, I now show 32.3 MPG as the car computer average over around 4000 miles in mixed highway/city driving the past 2 mons. Our A/C is rarely used now unless for defrost when it's raining and we switched to winter gas, so I just measured a 370 mi fillup 11.8 gal 31.4 MPG with 35% city miles. Note my "city" is probably more "suburban" to most people since I have two 1 mile stretches with only one stop and the other few miles have stop lights averaging every few blocks on a typical drive to Target, Home Depot, restaurants or church. I plan to do another true winter measurement in December.
 
Reminder: put more air IN your tires in winter. Last night when it was 52 deg out I noticed mine are down to around 32 lbs, and they were at 35 in the summer. I will wait for a 30 deg morning and put them back up to 35 lbs.

#237 of 259 Re: Gas milage on 2012 Toyota Camry SE [naatz1] by mcdawgg

Oct 16, 2012 (9:18 am)

Replying to: naatz1 (Oct 16, 2012 8:14 am)
Good point - most people forget about their tires. Air psi drops by 1 psi for every 10 degree F temperature decrease, so if it is 50 F outside, just fill your tires to 37 and they will be at 35 when the temp goes down to 30 F.
 
And, yes, if you do lots of short trips of less than 3 miles, your mpg will REALLY suffer, so you can't use that to say your mpg is bad.

#238 of 259 Re: Excellent Car [coches1] by seolbro

Oct 16, 2012 (4:42 pm)

Replying to: coches1 (Sep 30, 2012 7:17 pm)
For my driving I need the paddle shifters only when I have nothing else to do. The transmission does a fine job finding the right gear on its own. The shifter levers do look cool and they might be a resale feature.
 
I never seriously considered the LE so I have no comparison on the seat foam. After 3K miles I have found the seats to be very comfortable. Comfort is related to many things including height, weight and body shape. What works for me may not work for someone else.
 
I noticed at least one complaint about seat cloth durability in the LE. My SE has the textured cloth that is wearing well so far. Surprisingly, it does not produce a static build-up. I was shocked every time I exited my Accord.
 
BTW, I get 30 - 33 MPG consistently. My only problem was the trim on interior A pillar. It was a 20-minutes job to replace. I've adapted to the sterring wheel and love SiriusXM. Now that it's raining where I live I notice the Bridgestone Turanzas can break away when accelerating quickly from a dead stop. I hope Michelin is still making Pilot Exaltos when it comes replacement time. For my money: the best all season tires on the market.
 
The key choice factors on LE versus SE are exterior styling and handling. The SE has its own look while its steering and road grip are much tighter than what the LE (I had a loaner) offers.

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