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#26 of 48 Re: Chevy Volt Prices Paid and Buying Experience [seaurchin] by benrey23

Aug 21, 2011 (10:00 am)

Replying to: seaurchin (Jun 01, 2011 6:21 am)
I am a Certified Volt Salesman at a dealership in Indiana. We wanted a Volt sooner than GM was allotting us one. So we found a dealer in NY that was willing to sell one to us. NOw the one we bought was not a dealer trade but is was purchased like such. Meaning the dealer in NY did not want anything in return. Ofcourse we did not purchase it at the regular invoice minus credits. Since it was a dealer to dealer new vehicle transaction it is still a New vehicle and we did not claim any credit. It is sad to hear some of this is going on. All it does is hurt GM. The Volt is a fine vehicle with exceptional technology that far surpasses its competetors. The Leaf is having problems in terms of what they said was the EV range, what the EPA says is the EV range and what the public is actually getting which is lower than the EPA.
 
I would not be surprised if GM intervined and delayed some dealers alllocation that are practicing this credit game. As a saleman who is on the right of issues it is hard for me to support them since they were bailed out. I will say however the Volt was being designed well before the current administration. The Cruze is a great small compact car, the 2013 Malibu is sure to set fire, and the Volt is awesome technology. I hope GM does the right thing regarding this issue.

#27 of 48 Re: I think the [larsb] by benrey23

Aug 21, 2011 (10:03 am)

Replying to: larsb (Jun 01, 2011 11:11 am)
I agree it seems that way. It is dirty. But the MSRP is what the manufacturer suggests. The dealer is free to suggest a adjusted market price based on demand and availablility.

#28 of 48 Re: Chevy Volt Prices Paid and Buying Experience [benrey23] by claires HOST

Aug 21, 2011 (2:20 pm)

Replying to: benrey23 (Aug 21, 2011 10:00 am)
A couple of people cast some serious doubt on the original blog entry here; seems like it may have been a little short on facts.
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f2315b9/10#MSG10
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f2315b9/20#MSG20

#29 of 48 Re: Smoke, no fire [seaurchin] by benrey23

Sep 06, 2011 (6:23 pm)

Replying to: seaurchin (Jun 09, 2011 10:15 pm)
I sold a Volt in a state that to this day has not recieved one directly from GM. We have people wanting the Volt but cant sell them one. The one I sold was purchased through a dealer to dealer trade system but we had to agree to buy it at MSRP which we did. Now that it is gone and so many people waiting I can understand a dealer buying one and selling it pre owned. The dealer want be able to attain the credit and neither will the customer. However as long as you tell the customer that then there is no issue. Most of them could care less.

#30 of 48 Want one, just go buy one? by anythngbutgm

Sep 07, 2011 (5:22 am)

Over 1400 available
 
 

#31 of 48 Re: Want one, just go buy one? [anythngbutgm] by robr2

Sep 07, 2011 (10:13 am)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Sep 07, 2011 5:22 am)
But Chevy has almost 2100 dealers so 1/3 of them would have none in stock if each had one.

#32 of 48 Re: Want one, just go buy one? [robr2] by anythngbutgm

Sep 07, 2011 (1:41 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Sep 07, 2011 10:13 am)
That's 2100 dealers across the Country tho, isn't it? Right now the Volt is only available in a handful of states.
 
The excuse back in August was that 500 were sent to those dealers as demos. Now that the inventory has almost tripled, the Volt is looking more like the sales dud as it was originally projected...

#33 of 48 Re: Want one, just go buy one? [anythngbutgm] by robr2

Sep 07, 2011 (2:37 pm)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Sep 07, 2011 1:41 pm)
Right now the Volt is only available in a handful of states.
 
Actually now in most states - Chevy's goal was national distibution by the 4th quarter of this year.
 
The excuse back in August was that 500 were sent to those dealers as demos. Now that the inventory has almost tripled, the Volt is looking more like the sales dud as it was originally projected
 
So there weren't any to sell and that makes it a dud??
 
According to this link:
 
http://gm-volt.com/2011/08/03/after-a-necessarily-slow-july-volt-sales-poised-to- - -increase/
 
Chevy built 4000 Volts for the 2011 model year with 3200 being sold and about 700 used as demos/test units. That sounds like almost a sellout. Volts spend about 13 days on the lot before selling. That's a dud??
 
For the 2012 model year, they have the capacity to build 60K. The plant just came back on line at the beginning of August.

#35 of 48 Re: Want one, just go buy one? [robr2] by anythngbutgm

Sep 08, 2011 (6:46 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Sep 07, 2011 2:37 pm)
So there weren't any to sell and that makes it a dud??
 
There were plenty of them to sell. I've watched the success/failure of the Volt since it first came out and the inventory had risen to 500 -600 or so units available until the July. I also don't believe the "demo units" story either because these units were listed for sale like any other vehicle would be. Nothing about them being demos or they shouldn't have been listed IMO.
 
At the end of July, GM shut the plant down for "re-tooling", knocked a thousand bucks off the base price of the 2012 models and started off August with about 530 units (2011's). Here it is the first week of september and that inventory has tripled to over 1500 units (another 100 since just yesterday) while the forum shills and Government Motors keep saying the car is impossible to get because it's so wildly popular.
 
B.S.
 
And even with the same shills contaminating forums with "range anxiety" fear mongering, the Nissan Leaf continues to pull away from it in sales...
 
Chevy built 4000 Volts for the 2011 model year with 3200 being sold and about 700 used as demos/test units. That sounds like almost a sellout
 
The original plan was for 10k units in the first year...

"we wanted to share this quote from Government Motor's Rob Peterson:
 
The Volt production launch is on schedule to build and sell every one of our 10,000 units this year."
 
So even if they moved 4000 of them through demos, fleets, government agencies, test mules, etc, I'd say that is way off mark which is why I called it a dud.

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