Last post on Apr 19, 2013 at 2:22 PM
You are in the Subaru Impreza
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Subaru Impreza, Subaru, Sedan, Wagon
#1242 of 1605 Re: Do you like the Subaru's navigation? [rsholland]
May 03, 2012 (6:24 pm)
Yes, I've had experience with many factory installed navigation systems and several Garmin units.
Even though the Garmin units have a smaller screen, the Garmin 4.3" screen units that I have had experience with were much easier to read than the Impreza's larger screen. The Garmins' font style, size, brightness and contrast makes text easier to read. And I've never had a Garmin calculate a bad route. Whereas this has happened several times with the Impreza's system.
I can't comment on the Bluetooth functionality because I haven't tried using it with any of my gadgets, and don't plan on trying.
#1243 of 1605 Re: Do you like the Subaru's navigation? [crlsto]
May 03, 2012 (6:28 pm)
I don't know. I would assume this subject is covered in the navigation system's operating manual, which I have not looked at. I feel one should be able to use a navigation system without referring to the manual. If I have to read the manual to figure out how to do something...well, let's just say I won't bother. I never had to refer to any documentation to use the Garmin units.
#1244 of 1605 Re: LOVE the car, but it needs a little ooomph!! [kanjii]
May 03, 2012 (9:41 pm)
i know what you're talking about i think, but it think it's a matter of the difference power and torque curves. i haven't tried to go over 4k yet (i'm still just under 1000 miles) but from what i understand, peak hp and torque are in the 4k band. for my VTEC tiny 1.6litre civic, it didn't have the torque the Subie has at low rpms, but once spun up to 4-5k, it really took off. so i think it's not that one is better or worse...but more what you are used to...
#1245 of 1605 Re: "Bluetoot" and iPhones
May 04, 2012 (7:18 am)
Bluetooth was a huge sticking point for me, especially since I was comparing to a Focus (SYNC is very cool). The Subaru website has a compatibility list (here Subaru Bluetooth that does not paint a rosy picture: Basically it says the system does not support phonebook downloads from an iPhone 4 (or any of the 15 other smartphones I checked, so its not an apple thing). The iPhone 4s DOES support phonebook downloads, i dont see why they would be different if both running up to date software. Heres my experience with an iPhone 4 (from memory, once, havent taken delivery yet):
+ you can pair the phone via bluetooth, which allows you to accept incoming calls via steering wheel controls (henceforth SWC)
+ I was not able to download my phone book. this basically means that via the "call" SWC you can only dial by number (call 9-7-8-4-5-...)
+ BUT you CAN use built in iPhone voice functions. you cant initiate them via SWC, but if you hold the button on the iphone to activate Siri, the voice will come through the car speakers and will listen via the car mic. This is the same as the SYNC, Siri stuff must me initiated via the phone.
+ So by just stabbing at the iphone home button, youll be able to do anything Siri can normally do - dial by name, read a text, dictate a text, whatever. This is a fine compromise to me.
+this also works for pre 4s voice functions, which is basically limited to dialing by name and playing music (like "play artist Bruce Springsteen")
+ a paired iPhone will also stream music through the stereo. this works in the stock music app, and 3rd party apps like pandora and instacast (podcasts). It also displays track and artist info on the dash (if i remember right)
+ you can control iphone music streamed over bluetooth via SWC and the head unit. Wheel has no play pause button, but if you hit the power button on the head unit, itll pause. if you hit it again, itll resume right away. you can go forward and backwards via the up down toggle on the left side of the wheel. this even works in Pandora (something that the sales guy wasnt aware of)
+ via bluetooth, the only way to pick music is on the phone, and then it just routes it through the speakers
+ if you plug in via USB, the head unit will have all of your track info and artists and things and youll be able to scroll through them on the big screen.
+ if you are plugged in via USB, and not bluetooth, you wont be able to play 3rd party apps like pandora.
+ If you are connected via bluetooth, and you want to plug in f your phone to charge, and you want to use pandora, do one of the following 3 things:
1. at the playback screen in the app of choice, someone where near the time scrub bar, there should be a rectangle that has an up pointing arrow (it is also probably blue) that is the output picker menu, and its usually hidden if you arent connected to anything. tap that and choose bluetooth and not USB Audio.
2. from the homescreen, double tap the home button to bring up the multitask bar. swipe from to right to get to the playback controls. look for the same arrow in rectangle icon and select the desired output. (you might have to swipe left to right again to find the icon, im going from memory)
3. from the lock screen, double tap home to show playback controls. the blue triangle/rect should be right there. pick the output
this will allow you to use bluetooth audio to play pandora while you are charging.
I think the phone automatically picks the most recently connected output. so if you start the car and bluetooth connects, then plug it in, youll have to switch the output back to BT. if you get in the car, plug in the cord THEN start the car, then MAYBE BT will connect second and no switch will be required.
Ill be messing with this stuff extensively once i get my car. Crap that was long
#1246 of 1605 Re: LOVE the car, but it needs a little ooomph!! [kanjii]
May 04, 2012 (8:29 am)
4 words for real fun: double you are ex!
#1247 of 1605 Re: "Bluetoot" and iPhones [clarkbar6]
May 04, 2012 (9:44 am)
On the '12 Impreza with navigation that I test drove, I was able to load my iPhone 4 (not 4S, but 4) contact list on to the car's Bluetooth.
#1248 of 1605 Re: LOVE the car, but it needs a little ooomph!! [ateixeira]
May 04, 2012 (9:57 am)
Words to live by
#1249 of 1605 Re: LOVE the car, but it needs a little ooomph!! [kanjii]
May 04, 2012 (10:33 am)
for a 2.0 liter, the performance is outstanding. It will hold 80 mph no problem, and keep up with normal traffic.
Subaru hit a home run in my opinion, jacking the mpg into the 30's and keeping very normal modern performance. That is coming from my perspective of growing up with the 70-80's anemia where 1.6 to 1.9 liter carburated 4 cylinders were the norm. This FB engine is amazing in comparison.
#1250 of 1605 Re: LOVE the car, but it needs a little ooomph!! [once_for_all]
May 04, 2012 (10:48 am)
Agree with John on the performance. Its solid and very good. Monday morning I had 3 teenagers and myself on the way to school. The Impreza had no problem on a long up hill on-ramp going from 20 mph to 70mph without much straining. I believe the max rpm I hit was 4k. That and my mpg is still improvong as outside temperatures get warmer.
#1251 of 1605 Re: "Bluetoot" and iPhones [rsholland]
May 04, 2012 (10:49 am)
> On the '12 Impreza with navigation that I test drove,
> I was able to load my iPhone 4 (not 4S, but 4)
> contact list on to the car's Bluetooth
Yep, youre right, and thats reflected in the compatibility checker link that I posted. I wasn't clear in which model i was talking about. i tried the impreza limited with the color screen stereo but no nav. Havent tried the nav one. That said, i think the rest of my points will still apply, esp regarding how to use siri and how to play music through the speakers.