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Subaru Impreza, Subaru, Sedan, Wagon
#1130 of 1605 Re: Experience in returning a car? [subunut]
Apr 22, 2012 (7:15 am)
First, sorry you're having buyer's remorse.
Second, have you checked the tire pressure? The cars are shipped with the tires over inflated and dealers often "forget" to adjust to the correct pressure. As far as the ride, there has been mostly praise with respect to the ride on the 2012 Impreza. I personally test drove a Base 5-dr w/ CVT and I had no complaints with the ride (rode better than my 2002 Outback).
Third, have you driven a manual transmission recently? Even if you have, Subaru MTs are not the smoothest and do take some time to get used to, but once you "master" it, all should be OK.
Fourth, unfortunately since your car was titled/registered, the dealer would have to sell it as a used car. It sucks, but the fact remains that it's a used car. But I agree, $4K difference does seem out of line.
#1131 of 1605 Re: Ship time for 5-door [donnieyo]
Apr 22, 2012 (7:58 am)
I ordered a 5 door Limited on Jan 15th and still don't have a VIN. The worse part about this order is that SOA keeps changing estimated delivery dates to make customers happy which only serves to tick the customers off more after the dates pass.
It appears the delays have something to do with Nav but Subaru won't tell dealers what the problem is or when the get well date is. Because the dealers don't really know the answers and are the only direct contact people have with their orders people tend to lash out at them. Unfortunately late deliveries are Subarus fault but since they're harder to contact they get off scott free.
Sorry for my rant but after 99 days I'm very close to cancelling my order. The only reason I haven't cancelled yet is because I don't want my dealer to look bad because of it. Blaim needs to go to Subaru and Subaru needs to start answering fo their delays!
#1132 of 1605 Re: Experience in returning a car? [dcm61]
Apr 22, 2012 (8:51 am)
Just another suggestion to checkthe tire pressure. I can't imagine the ride would be TNT different between the CVT and 5spd. Of course, it may take time to refine your shifting skills.
Don't rush on the trade in. Try to explore the tires, you shifting and make sure this isn't something else causing your displeasure.
#1133 of 1605 Re: Ship time for 5-door [ammo_umb]
Apr 22, 2012 (11:45 am)
my quess would be parts availability of the NAV, not necessarily an issue with the Nav itself......sorry for the frustration.....hang in there and keep asking questions of SOA....thet dealer will not look bad....they will still get the car eventually as it was part of their over order allocation...with the exception it was earkmarked for you.....if you cancel......they will more than likely simply add it to their inventory when it arrives.....
#1134 of 1605 Re: My complaints on 2012 Sp Prem CVT [fredjohnson]
Apr 22, 2012 (4:59 pm)
Metal/doors are very thin.
Fred - This one bugs me. During the test drive, I also noticed how 'light' the door felt when opening and closing it. The doors felt like ones from a cheap low tier car. Salesman side they used super strong steel or something to deliberate cut the weight -I thought "yeah right, whatever". What you said about door dings is a good warning - Thinner sheet metal will dint that much more easily. Unfortunately this must be one of the sacrifices to acheive lowering manufacturing cost and vehicle weight (to achieve higher MPG).
#1135 of 1605 ordering impreza
Apr 22, 2012 (6:03 pm)
was told last day to order 2012 imprezas is tomorrow. the wife wants a dark grey 2.0 limited 5-dr. also told delivery normally takes 6 to 8 weeks. pretty excited, funny how little the wife cares when the car is for her.
#1136 of 1605 Re: My complaints on 2012 Sp Prem CVT [mmyk72]
Apr 22, 2012 (10:10 pm)
Yes. The doors are thin to save weight. My body shop guy who himself owns a WRX recommended that I get the side molding strips to save at least a few door dings.
The new steel is higher in tensile strength which helps in an accident but won't necessarily be helpful for door dings.
#1137 of 1605 Re: My complaints on 2012 Sp Prem CVT [fredjohnson]
Apr 23, 2012 (7:37 am)
I have the Sport Prem CVT in the Minneapolis area also. The engine does idle high and noisy when cold, but once warm its much better. Other than that noise doesn't seem to be an issue for me. Compared to my 2001 Outback acceleration is great. Zero to X isn't stellar, but 50 to 70 seems quite good and passing hasn't been an issue. Brakes, I'll somewhat agree that they have gotten a little softer with break in. Lately it has been windy with 25 to 35 mph winds. I haven't notice much issue compared to other cars I've owned and its much better than our Chevy Tahoe. Heated seats are very nice and quick and the temperature on them is great.
I think our difference in opinon on these are could be just what we are used to.
The thin sheet metal or at least the sound of thinner metal is there. I wonder if the sheet metal is that much thinner or if less sound proofing might be to blame. A thin coat of foam on the back side would have helped, but adds cost and some weight. Agree a little work there would have made the car even better.
My only slight disappointment so far is the MPGs. It hasn't been bad but not 36mpg or better. I can still beat EPA numbers with my 2001 Outback. So far I've calculated 32 to 33mpg on 3 tanks. I think the cool morning temps (30's F) has the biggest impact.
#1138 of 1605 Re: Experience in returning a car? [subunut]
Apr 23, 2012 (8:35 am)
very uncomfortable ride
Doesn't sound right - Consumer Reports actually gave the Impreza the title of best small car ride. Tires are shipped with very high pressures to prevent flat-spotting, so check that first.
Ask the dealer if he has a demonstrator CVT that you could swap for. You'd still pay about a grand out of pocket because the CVT costs more.
It's a tough situation, but you have to ask yourself, when you went to buy your first new car, would you have paid the same for a returned car someone else didn't like? I sure wouldn't...
Apr 23, 2012 (9:21 am)
The dealer sent me home with 42 psi in the tires. Since they are rated at 51 max psi, and the car didn't feel bouncy or squirrely on the road, I didn't do anything to correct it.
Saturday hit 92 and 10 miles from home, the TPMS starts flashing. I get out, kick the tires, definitely no flats or low pressure. Going down the road, the light turns steady. Coming home (night time) the light goes off and stays off. After letting air out the following morning, putting them at 34 front and 33 rear all around, we haven't had a light come on since.
I'm not sure what the high psi level trigger is, but it does exist.