What Classic/Collectible car couldn't someone GIVE to you?

52 messages,  Last post on Sep 24, 2011 at 6:17 PM

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#46 of 52 Re: What Classic/Collectible car couldn't I GIVE to you? [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

Apr 13, 2011 (5:54 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 12, 2011 5:49 pm)
Ah, you jogged my memory. It was a NEWPORT, so that means a 361 cid.
 
Wow, so if a Newport was guzzling like that, I hate to think of how much a New Yorker with a 413 would have swallowed down!
 
The few times I had taken my '57 DeSoto on a highway run, it would get around 16 mpg. Which, I guess, is fairly reasonable. At around two tons, it weighs about as much as my '76 LeMans, '67 Catalina, and '79 New Yorker (base weight of all three is within around 60 lb of each other). Yet with a 341 Hemi, it actually has less displacement than the others (400 for the Catalina, 360 for the NYer, and while they called it a 350, the LeMans has 353 cubes if you do the math).
 
The Catalina has done as well as 17, while the LeMans has come close to 18, and the New Yorker gotten around 21. None of them would do that consistently though, and to get those kind of figures, it almost has to be a pure highway run (i.e., fill up, get on the highway, and don't stop again until the next fill-up)

#47 of 52 Re: What Classic/Collectible car couldn't I GIVE to you? [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 13, 2011 (7:40 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 13, 2011 5:54 am)
That's the way 60s cars were---on the highway, MPG was sometimes tolerable but the minute you got into stop and go driving, the mileage would almost halve.

#48 of 52 Re: What Classic/Collectible car couldn't I GIVE to you? [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969

Apr 13, 2011 (8:24 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 13, 2011 7:40 am)
That's the way 60s cars were---on the highway, MPG was sometimes tolerable but the minute you got into stop and go driving, the mileage would almost halve.
 
I always thought it a bit odd that my '67 Catalina and '68 Dart would both get around 17 mpg on the highway. Despite the fact that the Catalina had about 800 lb, and 82 cubes, and an extra pair of carb jets compared to the Dart.
 
But, in local driving, the Catalina could easily drop to 9-10, while the Dart was more like 12-13.
 
My LeMans and New Yorker can easily drop to 9-10 mpg, too!

#49 of 52 Re: What Classic/Collectible car couldn't I GIVE to you? [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Apr 13, 2011 (8:44 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Apr 13, 2011 8:24 am)
laws of physics apply despite those $49 "hydrogen generators" you see on eBay.
 
To get a 2-ton square brick moving takes energy! Once it's moving, not so much, unless you go fast enough to hit the aero wall. Then things get ugly quickly.

#50 of 52 Old Audis by martian

Sep 24, 2011 (12:37 pm)

I wouldn't take any Audi with >60,000 miles on it. These things are money pits, and the dealers love to do a lot of "extra" stuff.
Come to think of it , a BMW 740 would be the same-huge repair costs when something goes wrong.
AS for SAAB (the newest of the automotive world's walking dead)-will sed SAABs be worth anything? I heard that the Chinese willrescue them, but I cannot see the brand surviving long.

#51 of 52 Re: Old Audis [martian] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Sep 24, 2011 (1:28 pm)

Replying to: martian (Sep 24, 2011 12:37 pm)
The older Saabs are worth something---the cars from the 50s and 60s, and the Sonett sports car is a minor collectible. Some people like to mechanically restore the 80s Saab 5-door hatchback Turbos, because they have good utility and are fun to drive.
 
Very few Audis are worth saving---the Quattro 5000 wagons do catch people's eye, and the Audi 5000 GT Turbo coupe is a minor collectible.

#52 of 52 Re: Old Audis [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail

Sep 24, 2011 (6:17 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 24, 2011 1:28 pm)
Audi UR Quattro, that's about it for me, but very few were sold here.
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