Last post on Dec 03, 2013 at 5:51 AM
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#65 of 86 Re: 2012 Ford Escape problem [ngillis]
Oct 31, 2012 (10:55 am)
Modern fuel injected gasoline engines generally 'tick' anyway- the fuel injectors make the noise. Diesel engines are direct injected (fuel injected at *very* high pressures directly into the cylinders- what makes them make their characteristic sound). So are the newest gasoline engines, in the name of fuel efficiency. Regular fuel injection (*not* direct-injection) happens in the intake manifold, not in the cylinder itself. Direct injection requires much higher pressure, to overcome the cylinder pressure, and as a result the injectors are much noisier (louder 'ticking') than older fuel injection systems. So your ticking / vibration 'like something that takes diesel' isn't unusual, since the fuel is delivered the same way as in a diesel engine. That you don't notice it more *is*.
Our 2.0l 2013 is pretty smooth considering the technology, but when it lowers idle speed when warmed up, to around 700rpms, it also has noticable (though not extreme) vibration. Once I hit the throttle, the vibration goes away. This vibration isn't uncommon, even for older cars, at very low idle speeds- again, a tactic to save fuel (lower engine speeds at idle = less fuel being burnt).
So, while you may or may not be experiencing something out of the ordinary with your Escape, get used to these general characteristics, as they're all part of the technology used to make our cars more fuel efficient.
Ironically, as wwest has stated, even the tranny hesitation isn't uncommon, just worse in some vehicles than others. My 08 V6 Malibu LTZ with 6-speed auto occasionally exhibited similar symptoms, and my daughter's 2006 VW beetle 5-cylinder / 6 speed auto was far worse, jerking you hard when it finally decided to go!
#66 of 86 Re: 2012 Ford Escape problem [usa1fan]
Nov 01, 2012 (6:58 am)
I already described the 1-2 second "re-acceleration" delay.
usa1fan's post brought to mind the "secondary" type of tranny "delay" due to the lowered torque coupling of the torque converter. As a result of modern day high percentage of time use of the lockup clutch there is less need for a "robust" TC. So we now we have TC's that need more "wind-up", engine RPM, before "drive" is engaged.
That's also why many modern day car's have the "hill roll-back" prevention feature, no longer enough torque coupling at idle to hold the car in place stopped on a slight incline.
#67 of 86 Re: 2012 Ford Escape problem [wwest]
Nov 01, 2012 (7:10 am)
Figured out how to "solve" the issue. Took a $5k loss and traded the hunk of junk for a 2012 Honda CR-V which drives like a dream. That was my first Ford and will be my last.
#68 of 86 Re: 2012 Ford Escape problem [mccomajl]
Nov 01, 2012 (8:09 am)
Unless you bought a stick shift CR-V there is little reason to believe it doesn't have the same "features". Both "features"(***) have a seriously positive impact on FE so they have been widely adopted throughout the industry.
It might take quite few drive cycles to nomralize all the appropriate parameters but after that you may very well find yourself in the same boat.
1.) Real-time control of ATF line pressure, line pressure drops to nil except for shifting.
2.) Torque converter less robust, virtually NO coupling at/near idle.
#69 of 86 Re: 2012 Ford Escape problem [wwest]
Nov 01, 2012 (8:19 am)
I've driven the CR-V for over 10,000 miles now and not once has it exhibited any type of shift hesitation. The Escape had a shift hesistation every single day, first thing in the morning.
#70 of 86 Re: 2012 Ford Escape problem [mccomajl]
Nov 01, 2012 (8:24 am)
Oh, sorry that one is the result of the ATF volume being too low when cold, satisfactory volume once warmed. Penny-pinchers, again, but with a bit of FE (weight) thrown in.
#72 of 86 2011 Ford Escape fan module
Nov 05, 2012 (9:36 am)
that control the speed of the heater fan. #1, #2 do not work
dealership is aware of this problem. Mine is out of warranty, naturally.
The part is $40..
tried youtube, no help.
Its starting to get cold here.
#73 of 86 Re: 2012 Ford Escape problem [mccomajl]
Nov 09, 2012 (5:37 pm)
post it on facebook, plus write to Ford. I am having a blower switch problem.
and its not uncommon..#1, #2 on the dial does not work. but #3,4 work nicely.
fortunately its easy to remedy, with a screw driving. Check you tube.
#74 of 86 its the little things
Nov 27, 2012 (5:18 pm)
that make this suv a pain where I should not have them. Tranny problems (software, solenoid), heater blower switch solenoid went (easy repair, but naturally out of warranty), now the hinge that holds the visor is loose, new part $20. Never had this many problem when I ran GM Montana (100,000 miles) no worries. The dealership in Watford was great.