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Honda CR-V, SUV
Apr 02, 2011 (1:04 pm)
Honda has long been critized for road noise but I honestly believe that some people maye WAY too big of a deal about it.
Yeah, if you want to focus on it you can certainly hear it although it isn't THAT much more than other cars. I had two customers bring decibel meters and compare Hondas to Toyotas and both agreed that there wasn't that much of a difference. not nearly as much of a difference as the Toyota salespeople would have you believe.
Honda did "something" in 2010 to make CRV's quietier. We all noticed the difference immediatly. We own a 2003 and a 2011 and there is quite a difference although neither of us find the 2003 to be objectionable.
I sometimes think that Honda tries to buy the noisiest tires they can find and tires make a huge difference. There is also a product called Dynamat that makes a big difference too.
It has to be remembered that what bothers one person is of no little concern to others.
#10 of 66 Re: Honda Road Noise [ksayers]
Apr 03, 2011 (6:29 am)
Agree. Hondas tend to be noisier than its competitors. When I changed tires on my CR-V I noticed an improvement, though. Still, if you're sensitive to noise, get a Lexus.
#11 of 66 Re: Road Noise [isellhondas]
Apr 14, 2011 (8:02 am)
We just bought a 2011 CRV SE and don't find any objectionable road noise. Actually cross shopping the Hyundai Tuscon we found to have more tire noise.
After owning Honda cars since 2002 this CRV is the first without objectionable road noise.
2000 Odyssey, 2003 Accord, 2006 Odyssey, 2008 Accord, 2010 Pilot all had elevated levels of road noise above competitors. The 2010 Pilot was by far the worst with the truck tires.
#12 of 66 Re: Road Noise [blackexv6]
Apr 14, 2011 (8:18 pm)
Yes, Motor Trends latest reviews of SUV's is very critical of Pilot road noise.
#14 of 66 Re: Road Noise [toledo73]
May 03, 2011 (6:26 am)
I will be in acquiring a vehicle in the near term. As previously noted, my experience with my wifes Pilot was revealing. Apologists will note tires and wind noise. Tires may give you a minor 10% reduction... maybe... and wind noise is not road noise (there is the same amount of wind on an asphalt road as a concrete road). Why have a radio if you can't listen to it? There really is no excuse for this long term, well established problem. I would like to tell Honda engineers to go talk to Ford or Chrysler or Toyota or anyone about how to do it. That might embarass them into acknowledging the issue. This is nothing esoteric and has been accomplished for d-e-c-a-d-e-s.
As it is, and as much as I would like to get a CR-V based on my otherwise fine experience with the Pilot, everything is now pointing to a Subaru Outback or RAV4. Quality on all 3 is equal (a good thing). All have slight benefits over each other in one form or another (pick one...). Mileage is similar.
Competition is good. Honda just happens to be losing this particular competition (my sale)... due to something that could be resolved but isn't being resolved for reasons that are not readily apparent.
#15 of 66 Re: Road Noise [ksayers]
May 04, 2011 (11:23 am)
Have you driven all 3 of those? I think the noise and ride are all fairly similar in the current models, and Subaru's often get worse mileage. I think sometimes people generalize the CRV noise based on the older versions. I believe you really need to move up to cars like Highlander or Traverse if noise and ride is your main concern and decision parameter.
#16 of 66 Re: Road Noise [berri]
May 04, 2011 (12:31 pm)
Yes, have driven them, 2011's. The CR-V is plagued with severe road noise as Hondas have been for the past decade. Very reliable and noisy tin cans. The Toyota has the least noise with the Subaru not far behind.
All three are reliable vehicles. Honda is simply losing customers based on their choice of ignoring a known product issue.
#17 of 66 Re: Road Noise [ksayers]
May 05, 2011 (1:05 pm)
I have to totally disagree with you.
I sold Hondas for almost 14 years and while I certainly do agree with you that road noise has been an issue, I really believe it isn't THAT bad when compared to the other cars you mentioned as well as others.
I have had customers bring decible meters on test drives after doing the same with other cars. In some cases noise levels were the same and int he cases where Hondas were louder, the differences were slight.
Most of the comments about noise come from the salespeople in competive stores. " If you decide to drive a CRV, be sure to bring ear plugs"
But, I agree, Hondas can be noisier than other cars in their classes.
We have owned three CRV's. A 2000, a 2003 that we still have, and a 2011.
The 2011 is MUCH quietier than the 2003. It does NOT have "severe road noise" and for some unexplained reason is markedely quieter than a 2010.
Hona does need to continue their work but I think if you do the decimal meter test you'll be surprised.
And, even the noisiest of Hondas didn't seem to bother most shoppers. Some people are simply more sensitive.
The Toyota may be a bit quietier but can't compare in the handling catagory and the Subaru will get worse gas mileage.
#18 of 66 Re: Honda Road Noise [ksayers]
May 07, 2011 (6:37 pm)
This is an historic and classic Honda problem. They are regularly beaten up by the auto test magazines on this issue and Consumer Reports gigs them on it on every model. Yet Honda ignores the issue and keeps on producing loud cars. I nearly bought an Accord a few years ago, but told the salesman that the car was simply too loud. Same with Acura. Until people start complaining by not buying these otherwise fine cars, Honda will gaff us off.