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#1 of 3 Foggy headlights. Need advice.
Mar 22, 2011 (4:01 pm)
I hope I've posted this in the correct forum section. If not, please forgive me. I couldn't find the troubleshooting/problems section.
Anyways, I own an 04 Nissan Murano, of which the headlight (driver side) has gotten foggy. It's certainly not as transparent as the passenger side light. At first I wasn't sure why one was foggy and the other wasn't, but then I took a closer look at the foggy light and noticed a small crack on the outside casing. I believe this crack has allowed moisture to enter the light. I've heard of people restoring their headlights with special DIY kits, but I've decided to take the route of simply replacing the light with an aftermarket light from an online store. I found two sites that I particularly liked, but I'm unsure of whether or not they are legitimate businesses. Furthermore, I don't want to fall prey to a scam. Has anyone purchased from either of these sites and can verify that they are a legitimate business? Thanks in advance.
#2 of 3 Re: Foggy headlights. Need advice. [kencabrera]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Mar 22, 2011 (4:52 pm)
Hereís some suggestions for making your headlights look and work like new again. Try a little corner of your lens as a test patch if you are unsure whether attempting to polish your headlights will make the situation better or worse..
Clean the lens using various compounds and polishes.
Most auto parts stores have a kit for polishing head and taillight lenses. Brands typically found at your local auto parts or big box store include:.
◊ Meguiar's PlastX
◊ Novus (#2 for fine scratches, #3 for polish)
◊ Mothers Plastic Polish
◊ DuPont polishing compound (white)
◊ Brasso (the manufacturer says itís for polishing metal, but people often use it for polishing plastic, including CDs and DVDs as well as iPod screens).
◊ Gel fluoride toothpaste. The suggested use of fluoride toothpaste was from a boat yard repair that a forum member had success with. Smear some gel fluoride toothpaste on the lenses and rub it on with your fingers and leave it on overnight. Then simply wash it off. The fluoride supposedly reacts with the acrylic to remove the UV aged film, but maybe itís just the abrasive nature of the toothpaste that actually does the work. Chances are you have some toothpaste handy you can try and save yourself a trip to the store.
◊ Brake part/carb/throttle body cleaner -- per member Doohickie, if you have an older car with a refractive (the older style with a series of bumps inside; not clear) lens, there is a very quick way to remove haziness. Either remove the headlamp assembly from the car or pack several thicknesses of newspaper into the cracks around it, and wipe the lens with an old T-shirt soaked with brake part/carb/throttle body cleaner. This will actually dissolve the top layer of the lense and leave a slight texture behind, but it made his hazy Escort headlights clear in about 30 seconds)
Compound Application techniques.
Rub on just using a regular terry cloth towel. Some people just grab an old gym sock. One CarSpace member used very fine polishing compound and a soft cotton buffing pad on a drill motor. Be careful or you will put burn marks in the plastic and they are almost impossible to get out.
Whether you use a polishing compound, toothpaste, Brasso or one of the commercial plastic polishes to clear up the haze, the technique is largely the same. Just put some on a small cloth and use it as if you were using a very fine rubbing compound, turning the cloth as needed and re-wetting with the polish, then finishing with a clean, dry cloth. Repeat until any haze, scratches, and pitting disappear. These products generally are very fine abrasives, not just cleaners, so they actually grind out the scratches and pits, with a little bit of effort.
Some people use a series of fine grit sandpaper to wet sand the lenses, but that may be a bit extreme unless you canít get satisfactory results with the polishing techniques above.
To buff out headlight lenses, it's best to remove the light assembly first. Then start with 600 or 800 grit wet/dry paper and work your way up to 1200, and finally 1500 grit. Let the paper do the work and don't use too much elbow grease. Keep a spray bottle of water handy and spritz your work frequently. Then polish as above. The lens won't exactly look new but you can easily make a huge improvement with the investment of a few hours of your time and a few bucks worth of supplies.
Repair of cracks.
A polycarbonate adhesive has been used to repair cracks in lens by forum member Caribou1. His recommended brand, Makrolon Adhesive, may be hard to find in the US, but there are US sources on the internet. A resin adhesive made for laminating Lexan should also work. This adhesive is used to assemble aquariums, so you may find some suitable glue at your local aquarium store. Once the adhesive dries, you can polish any excess off using the cleaning tips here.
If none of these suggestions work (or you get a bit overzealous with buffing and sanding), you can get a new lens or light unit. They are readily available from your dealer and on eBay. Usually the lens are easy to change. You can also find replacements at the local salvage yard but if you are trying to replace older yellowed lens, the old ones in the salvage yards may be hazy too just from the passage of time and long exposure to the sun and elements.
Polycarbonate headlamp lenses are sensitive. Avoid putting chemicals on them - GM recommends avoiding rubbing compound, grease and tar removers, tire cleaners, cleaner waxes, chemicals used to remove rail dust and even some car wash soaps in too high a concentration.
Precut plastic headlight covers will take the brunt of the road debris and may prevent any hazing and yellowing. Some covers stick out a bit from the lens and attach mechanically or you can get the thin plastic protective film that 3M and other companies make and cut it to fit over the lens. The film is virtually invisible.Griotsgarage.com is one supplier.
After polishing plastic headlights, some members here have found that the lens often haze over much quicker than they did originally. This is reportedly because the manufacturer coats the lens with a protective layer. Polishing will remove this protective layer.
Some of the headlight polishing kits have a final coating you put on after polishing. Or you can use a product like 303 Aerospace Protectant or paste wax. This treatment may help the repair last longer.
Use the leftover plastic polish for polishing your iPod Nano screen, your watch crystal (ok, your cell phone screen) or your acrylic hot tub.
There's an Edmunds article with good pics: Restoring Your Headlights (Wax on, Wax off)
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