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#464 of 513 Re: New Civic [anythngbutgm]
Nov 12, 2012 (2:37 pm)
Not a bad looking car. But honestly, I don't have a problem with the curent Civic, although I'll admit I haven't looked at one closely. There's a lady at work who has a 2012, and she's happy with it. I've seen it in the parking lot, and I don't have a problem with it.
When it comes to compact cars, who's considered to be the "winner", these days, anyway? The Civic has drawn a lot of flak, but I swear the Corolla doesn't seem to have advanced all the much in at least a decade. The Nissan Sentra seems to have fallen to "also-ran" status, but my friend's grandmother recently bought a used 2010 model. I sat in it the other day, and it seemed to be a nice car.
I guess cars have gotten so good in general these days that even if you end up picking the "loser", you still end up with a decent car.
Nov 13, 2012 (5:34 am)
Ya, there are a couple of owners here at work, and none of them have anything bad to say. I do think the revisions are well done, but the rumor is the 2-tiered dash has been deleted for a more traditional setup which will make a lot of the naysayers happy.
#466 of 513 Re: Current Civic [anythngbutgm]
Nov 13, 2012 (7:40 am)
the Acura ILX is basically the same platform, and it has a normal dash. Looks quite a bit different.
I kind of liked the dash myself. The main reason I did not buy one back in 2006 (got an Accord instead) was because I hated the seats!
My daughter (just about to get her full license) likes them. One of her friends got a few year old couple recently, and it is nice.
most likely, if I had to replace my volvo (which is about to become "her" car most of the time) I would look hard for a 2006+ generation Civic for her.
#467 of 513 Re: New Civic [anythngbutgm]
Nov 14, 2012 (6:37 am)
Don't like the rear much but the front is very nice. The rear looks too much like the 2012 Accord with the lights...think the Acura version is nicer all around. I do like my two tiered dash as it's quite easy to read and everything I need is right where it should be. Mine should be around for a long time as I'm just about to hit the 35k mark this week.
#469 of 513 Honda to benefit most from Hyundai mpg debacle?
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Nov 16, 2012 (5:27 am)
The earthquake may not be a damaging as Hyundai and Kia shooting themselves in the foot by messing up their EPA mpg testing.
“People bought into the whole program: cool-looking cars that also offered great value, including high fuel economy,” Caldwell said. “Now it turns out that one part of that formula wasn’t true.”
Hyundai and Kia’s growth came as Honda struggled with poor reviews for models including its 2012 Civic and worked to restore assembly operations in 2011 following natural disasters in Asia that cut parts supplies.
“The timing is beautiful for Honda,” said Jake Fisher, director of automotive testing for Consumer Reports, in a phone interview. “They’d been seen as falling behind in fuel efficiency, not keeping up with Hyundai and others.’”
Hyundai Fuel-Economy Flap Seen as Turned Tables for Honda (BusinessWeek)
Other automakers will benefit but none so much as Honda.
Dec 20, 2012 (3:19 am)
-- Honda Accord, four-door
-- Suzuki Kizashi
-- Ford Fusion
-- Honda Accord, two-door
-- Kia Optima
-- Nissan Altima, four-door
-- Nissan Maxima
-- Subaru Legacy
-- Subaru Outback
-- Dodge Avenger
-- Chrysler 200, four-door
-- Mazda 6
-- Volkswagen Passat
-- Hyundai Sonata
-- Chevrolet Malibu
-- Volkswagen Jetta sedan
-- Toyota Camry
-- Toyota Prius v
Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20121220/OEM11/121219849#ixzz2FacNoTlN
#472 of 513 IIHS Gives Accord top rating
Dec 20, 2012 (3:20 am)
Video and full story at link:
"The Accord sedan shows how safety belts and airbags work together to provide exemplary protection. The dummy stayed engaged with the Accord's front airbag, and the steering wheel remained relatively stable because there was only moderate intrusion into the occupant compartment. That meant that the driver airbag was in the right position to cushion the dummy's head and chest. The side curtain airbag extended far enough forward to prevent the dummy's head from hitting interior components."
"Toyota falls short
Shoppers looking for a midprice family car will recognize some perennial bestsellers on the TOP
SAFETY PICK+ winners' list, including the Accord, Altima and Fusion.
One nameplate they won't find is Toyota. The Camry, which is the top-selling midsize car in the United States, and the Prius v, a 4-door hybrid wagon, earn poor ratings for small overlap protection and are the worst performers of the midsize group. The Camry was redesigned for 2012, and the Prius v was an all-new model for 2012.
The Camry and Prius v illustrate what can go wrong in a small overlap crash...
In the Camry, the force of the impact shoved the front wheel back into the footwell, bending the windshield pillar and pushing the parking brake pedal and the left outer edge of the instrument panel rearward into the driver's survival space. Likewise, there was significant intrusion in the Prius v, along with high forces on the dummy's legs and feet. The Prius v is the only car in the midsize test group to earn a poor rating for hip and thigh protection.
The Camry's driver airbag and side curtain airbag deployed, but the steering wheel moved so far to the right that the dummy's head made only minimal contact with the front airbag. The side curtain airbag didn't extend far enough forward to help prevent the dummy's head from hitting the instrument panel. In the Prius v, the side curtain airbag deployed too late in the crash to offer protection.
"Toyota engineers have a lot of work to do to match the performance of their competitors," Lund says.
#473 of 513 Consumer Reports
Dec 20, 2012 (3:24 am)
names the Accord their best rated midsize sedan. A few quotes:
"....The new Accord is roomy, nice to drive, well equipped, and very fuel efficient.
Its 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine, when matched with the smooth continuously variable transmission, squeezes out an excellent 30 mpg overall and 40 on the highway. That’s as good as a tiny Honda Fit and better than most compact cars. The 3.5-liter V6 is super-smooth and quite powerful, snapping off a 6.3-second 0-to-60 mph time that is competitive with some sports cars. And its 26 mpg overall is among the best in its class.
Inside, you are treated to one of the best driving positions available, comfortable seats, and terrific visibility. All Accords have a standard backup camera, rare among family sedans. Uplevel models include advanced safety features seldom found in this category, including forward-collision and lane-departure warning systems, and Honda’s new Lane Watch blind-spot camera system....
In the final tally, the four-cylinder Accord jumped 10 points in our Ratings to take over the top spot among entry-level sedans...
Based on its history, we expect above-average reliability for the Accord.
The Accord is one of the more agile family sedans, with subdued body lean and decent steering feedback....
Honda has finally solved the Accord’s longtime problem with road noise; road and wind noise are nicely muted....
The CVT is smooth, quick, and unobtrusive, marking a new benchmark for that type of transmission. You’d be hard pressed to tell that it isn’t a conventional automatic, high praise indeed....
Drivers will find plenty of space in the cabin. The cloth front seats are wide and supportive, although the LX model lacks power seats and lumbar adjustment. The powered leather seats provide better support and more adjustments and have two-position seat memory, a unique feature in this class. The rear has a supportive bench that’s comfortable for two adults but tight for three.
Fit and finish is generally very good....
The Accord’s gauges are a model of clarity, and most controls are easy to use....
All Accords come with standard dual-zone automatic climate control, a nice touch....
The trunk is large and nicely trimmed...."