Last post on Oct 29, 2013 at 10:48 PM
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#58 of 135 Re: Acura: So very close to "fine" . . . pt 1 [08tldriver]
Nov 18, 2011 (4:12 pm)
I know, I'd loved my 3G TL. I don't know what Acura was thinking with the 4G. I understand they are moving the TSX and TL up market this generation but I mean they went crazy on the TL (in both size and design). The interior is still gorgeous as always, just too bad the exterior couldn't match it. 4G sales prove it. Everyone blames the recession and earthquake, etc for the poor sales numbers but other manufacturers were hit with the same thing and their sales did not decline in this category. Let's hope Acura remedy's with the 5G for 2014 so I can be back in one, fingers crossed!
Nov 25, 2011 (8:23 pm)
i am looking to buy a 2012 TL with Technology Package. I drove both the FWD and SH-AWD versions, and there was no comparison. The handling on the SH-AWD was quite impressive. The FWD had more torque steer than my 2005 TL which is not surprising given that it has more horsepower and torque than the '05 had.
my question is could someone who owns a 2012 SH-AWD TL please tell me what mileage they are getting according to their trip computer. The EPA raised the MPG numbers on the 2012s, presumably due to the six speed tranny.
any information would be appreciated, as i am a bit concerned about fuel economy. i have not owned an AWD car before.
BTW the selling my '05 and moving up to the 2012 will be bittersweet. i have loved that car!
#60 of 135 Re: 2012 TL SH-AWD [drive4show]
Nov 26, 2011 (7:56 pm)
About 26 mpg on the highway and high teens in suburban driving for my 2012 TL SH-AWD with Advance package and automatic transmission.
#61 of 135 Re: 2012 TL SH-AWD [drive4show]
Nov 27, 2011 (4:38 pm)
"...selling my '05 and moving up to the 2012 will be bittersweet."
Why are you selling it, then?
#62 of 135 Re: 2012 TL SH-AWD [renssils]
Nov 28, 2011 (1:44 pm)
thanks for the information. that pretty well matches the new EPA numbers which are 18 and 26. sounds like i might average around 22 overall, which isn't bad for a car with so much power. just hope i can get the deal done.
#63 of 135 Re: 2012 TL SH-AWD [hpmctorque]
Nov 28, 2011 (1:48 pm)
I am selling it because you can't drive it forever and I've got the fever for a new one. I haven't ever driven a car as long as I have this one, which is a testament to how much I have enjoyed it.
But its a great question; one I have asked myself over and over. It still looks and runs great.
#64 of 135 Wondering what's next. . .
Nov 30, 2011 (11:29 am)
I am happy behind the wheel of my 2012 TL SH-AWD Advance. Even the exterior, from certain angles, is no longer replusive. The interior gets an A-, but it too needs a refresh, IMHO.
So, with but 32 payments on the 36 month lease to go -- I wonder if Acura really will "advance" their image and, more importantly, their products. The 2012 TL is somewhat of a statement, perhaps somewhat like the current gen CTS was for Cadillac a couple of years ago.
Somehow, I think Acura is kind of like the Buick in the Premium class. That is, both Acura and Buick WANT you to think of them as Premium cars and they are doing some things to "advance" that notion.
But, both of these brands are on the bubble as far as I can tell -- what the hell does Acura stand for anymore? What is the point of the ZDX and the RL currently, or who is the target buyer of these models. The RDX has way too much Honda in it to be taken seriously, I think. The TSX is already known to be next up to be ditched and there is, apparently, a new RSX coming -- hopefully it will not show its relationship to Honda loudly.
If the TL is any indication of what Acura can build, well, congratulations -- good job, etc. But one car needs to be followed by another and another and another. My dealer basically lives to sell MDX's apparently. The '12 TL may be turning that around, but I think most people look at Acura has being kind of a one trick pony and that is the MDX.
Nice as the MDX and '12 TL cars are, there has to be a next chapter.
Anyone have any ideas what is in the '14, '15 pipeline?
#65 of 135 Re: Wondering what's next. . . [markcincinnati]
Dec 12, 2011 (7:11 am)
There will be lots of new product, starting with a Civic platform based luxury compact, named ILX, in 2012, to replace the TSX. Also for next year, there will be a new, larger RL, and in 2013 a new generation TL. And, there's more. For more details check AutoWeek.
#66 of 135 Re: Wondering what's next. . . [hpmctorque]
Dec 12, 2011 (9:01 am)
I visted my dealer, Saturday, for my first service interal (oil, tires rotated, etc.). While I was there, I spoke with their sales manager who had just returned from Las Vegas for one of the Acura meetings that are held during the year.
Apparently the product line will be moving away from the "based on Honda" theme -- Acura will ultimately become a unique car company. Once again, I think this is Acura following the Audi (VW) approach. The Acuras coming will still be based on Honda products, near term, but the next things coming will not be simply upscale Hondas -- nice as that can be.
The NSX is coming and it will be a hybrid with gobs of performance -- a halo car; again somewhat like the Audi model (although the NSX powerplant will be based on 6 cylinders and four electric motors, rather than the R8 approach).
Moreover, the TL will get bigger (A6 rival), the RL will get to A8L size and there will be a new entry level car called the ISX, not the RSX. The TSX will soldier on at least for a few more years and become more of an A4 rival, apparently.
One Honda attribute, so to speak, will continue -- "high value." Apparently that means that the RL will cost less than an A8 but more than a Hyundai Equus (is that spelled correctly?) -- back to the original Acura roots, perhaps?
In any case the sales manager seemed pumped and encouraged by the corporate meeting's revelations -- and they also got to see the trailer of the Avengers where Tony Stark's ride is now an Acura, not an Audi.
Hmm, a bigger TL? Let's hope there is a sport package option that will add both trim and tune (to the suspension and engine).
#67 of 135 Re: Wondering what's next. . . [markcincinnati]
Dec 12, 2011 (9:35 am)
Sounds intresting- I am keeping the RL on my short list for 2013 (If I decide to trade up, I hope the pricing does not get riduculous.