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#67 of 109 Re: Weight [md_outback]
by avalon02wh
Aug 11, 2009 (12:44 pm)
"For avalon02wh, I'm not sure I agree with your arguments against the 20" wheels."
I was being a little sarcastic about the looks of the tire. It is definitely a subjective issue.
"... they probably do handle better than smaller tires,"
Do you mean handle as in race handling or comfort? Thinking back to my race days, unsprung weight was always something you tried to avoid. And let me go out on a limb here and suggest that there are many cars with smaller tire/wheel combos that handle better.
" and as far as the weight: when changing a tire in 40 below wind chill, does a 57 lb wheel go on any easier than a 67 lb wheel? "
Yes, it actually does.
As I get older the tires should be getting smaller.
I realize we won't be going back to the 12 inchers I had on my Corolla, but I draw the line at the monster tires, 18" and up, that are coming out now.
And, as others have mentioned, why should I pay for something I do not want?
"Suspension tuning can't compensate for tires that are too large for a vehicle of this type....Occupants feel most road imperfections, and sharp bumps register with undue harshness. "
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2009-toyota-venza-1.htm
This is only one review, but I have seen others like it. I won't be testing one because of the tires. There are too many other vehicles that I would rather test. But, like you said, to each his own.
#68 of 109 Re: Weight [avalon02wh]
by md_outback
Aug 11, 2009 (2:18 pm)
avalon02wh,
"Do you mean handle as in race handling or comfort? Thinking back to my race days, unsprung weight was always something you tried to avoid. And let me go out on a limb here and suggest that there are many cars with smaller tire/wheel combos that handle better."
Actually what I meant was that a Venza with 245/50-20 tires probably handles curves a little better than a Venza with 215/70-17 tires (both tires have nearly the same rolling diameter - and you like 17" and smaller wheels). The wider tread width of the 20-inchers would make up for the few extra pounds of unsprung weight compared with a smaller wheel/tire combo. But there are a lot of variables and certainly a 70 series tire will probably be more comfortable than the 50 series. And of course there are better handling cars with smaller tire/wheel combos, but I was only talking about a Venza here.
I guess my overall point was that one shouldn't pass up the Venza just because of the wheel size or because a couple of reviewers didn't like it. Test drive it yourself; talk to people who actually own one and live with it every day. Then make up your mind. As far as ride harshness goes, my previous vehicle was a Lexus RX350, and that had a pretty smooth and quiet ride. Now, most of the passengers in my Venza think it rides more smoothly and quieter than the Lexus. I guess they haven't read the reviews.
#69 of 109 Down HIll Assist When on Cruise Control
by tictoctictoc
Sep 30, 2009 (10:18 am)
Hi There,
Can anyone tell their experience on the Down Hill Assist when Cruise control is set?
Does it work on toyota venza? I have been driving in the Alleghenies and whdn on a down hill on a set speed on a cruise the vehicle doesn't maintain the speed set in by cruise it increases according to how steeply vehicle is going down. Is that normal?
with my previous vehicle Mazda cx 7 AWD i never faced this problem?
R u guys having the same issue....? am
#70 of 109 Re: Weight [avalon02wh]
by wwest
Oct 03, 2009 (11:12 am)
While I'm certainly no a fan of 20" wheels on an SUV (17" on my RX) I can't remember the last time I had to change a tire when underway. 69 years and LOTS of miles/year.
And on the other hand I really can't see what would be the difference in swapping out a 20" wheel/tire vs a 17".
#71 of 109 Re: Down HIll Assist When on Cruise Control [tictoctictoc]
by wwest
Oct 03, 2009 (11:17 am)
Asked and answered.....
#72 of 109 ride quality with 19inch wheels
by batavia02
Oct 14, 2009 (5:29 pm)
would appreciate some comments from all about the venza's ride do the 19 inch wheels ride any better or worse the the 20 inch ones looked at a venza today but have never had a vehicle with such big wheels and tires. thanks.
#73 of 109 Re: ride quality with 19inch wheels [batavia02]
by md_outback
Oct 15, 2009 (1:25 pm)
Hey batavia02,
I think your best bet is to test drive all of the vehicles that are of interest to you and decide for yourself. Ride quality is a very subjective thing, what feels harsh to one driver may be fine for another. In the Venza's case, the main difference between the 19 and 20 inch wheels is the different engine (I-4 vs V6) and that will probably play a bigger role in your decision compared with wheel size. I previously drove a lexus RX350 (with 18" wheels) and I find my V6 Venza (with 20" Michelins) to be a bit firmer over bumps but not objectionable and not tiring. And my passengers have never complained about the Venza's ride comfort - in fact they enjoy the large space available, especially in the rear seat.
MD
Oct 15, 2009 (4:10 pm)
There are differences in ride due to the tire brand that may account for as much difference in ride quality as changing from the 19 inch to 20 inch wheels. I have Michelin Latitude tires on my 20" wheels which generally get better reviews than the Goodyear RSA tires that are also offered. See survey results at tirerack.com where reviewers average rating is 8 for the Michelin and 5.5 for the Goodyear. I told my dealer that I would only accept a Venza with the Michelin tires, which incidentally retail for almost $100 per tire more than the Goodyear and have a treadwear rating of 440 instead of 260 for the Goodyear. I agree that it is best for you to test drive Venzas with the different size wheels to determine your preference. However, keep in mind that the tires are another important variable to consider and note during the test drive. In my humble opinion prospective buyers should pay attention to the tires when more than one brand is offered as original equipment as is the case with the Venza.
#75 of 109 Re: Toyota Venza Tires [steve_]
by valuewonk
Dec 04, 2009 (11:41 am)
Putting aside the question of whether or not 20" tires look better, can anyone educate me about the functional advantages vs. disadvantages of 20" tires vs. 19" or even 18" or 17"?
There seems to be a lot of criticism of 20" tires on the Venza creating a rough ride, etc. I have driven a Venza with 20" tires for the last six months and I haven't noticed a particular problem, but I haven't ridden in a Venza equipped with 19" tires. Previous Camry with smaller tires seemed just fine.
But what are the tradeoffs as you move to a larger or smaller diameter?