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Hyundai Azera, Sedan
#59 of 168 Re: Competition [mozartman]
Feb 27, 2012 (7:41 am)
"I thought the new Azera was supposed to compete well with the Lexus ES."
osaka75, sorry to spoil your feelings, but Azera doesn't compete with Lexus (ES).
Azera competes with Avalon, Maxima, and Lacross.
"Among front-wheel-drive mainstream brands it matches up against the Ford Taurus, Nissan Maxima and Toyota Avalon and in the near-luxury segment it contends with the Acura TL, Buick LaCrosse, and Lexus ES350. Judged in isolation, these are all impressive cars, and the rear-drive Chrysler 300 is another member of this otherwise front-drive group."
Based on the price points and equipment on the base models, I still believe that Azera is meant to compete with the ES350. And I think it will steal at least a few Lexus customers.
Anyway, great article! Look forward to many more positive reviews.
#60 of 168 Chicago Auto Show
Feb 27, 2012 (7:35 pm)
I finally had the opportunity to see the new 2012 Azera in person last week.
Hyundai had one of the larger display areas at the show and the Azera was well positioned and seemed to be drawing the majority of the over forty crowd, while the Veloster was the hit of the younger set.
The display model was the top of the line with all options and I especially liked the interior design and layout including the upgraded leather seating and other appointments as compared to my '07 Limited. The seats seemed comfortable with good overall visibility.
Not quite sure if I am a huge fan yet of the look of the panoramic sunroof and wind deflector and as others have already noted it seems strange that this option is only available with the $4000 Tech package, while navigation is standard equipment.
Overall I really liked the new exterior design with the exception of the fact that the front end is almost identical to the Sonata.
According the the Hyundai reps at the show, we can expect a major launch in April (pushed back from February). Let's hope that they do it right this time and not ignore it as they have in the past!
#61 of 168 The Autoblog Test...
Feb 27, 2012 (10:03 pm)
...is available here: 2012 Azera on Autoblog
Good review for what I'm sure is a very good car. Came in at 3,600 pounds too, a bit lower than preliminary estimates.
One thing's is certain, if you buy one you won't be seeing your car at every stoplight. The $33k to $37k price will ensure that.
Now for the big new 2013 Kia sedan rumored to come in with the 200HP 2.4 GDI mill, 3,500 pounds at the curb, and $27k on the window. That one we might be seeing a lot of......
#62 of 168 Another Azera story
Feb 29, 2012 (1:34 pm)
can be read here
#63 of 168 Re: Competition [jamazera]
Mar 01, 2012 (4:30 am)
How can base Infinity be based on Maxima since the Maxima is FWD and the G model Infinities are RWD?
IMO, you can talk platforms all you want, but two vehicles from the same platform can be very different. The Lincoln MKT is on the same platform as the Ford Flex, but the vehicles are worlds apart...or the Pontiac G8 and the Camaro...or the Saab 9-3 and the Chevy Malibu...
As an '06 Azera owner, I was initially put off by the price increase for the '13 Azera, but when I saw the pics and read the specs with increased content, I must say the car looks to be very sweet. I believe the increased content and price were necessary to perfectly split the gap between the Sonata and Genesis.
#65 of 168 Re: Competition [cobrazera]
Mar 01, 2012 (11:42 am)
check the interior volumes, wheelbase, etc....modern platforms with unibody construction can accomodate 2 wd or 4 wd and various drivetrain combinations....look closely the toyota models and the lexus models...it is hard to dinstugish them apart without badging .....(minus chrome,headlight design etc) I too own a '06 Azzy with 38k miles....bought it new....black on black Limited...will not consider th new Azzy too pricy,,,,will look the new Kia Cadance (????) when it arrives
#66 of 168 Re: Competition [cobrazera]
Mar 01, 2012 (11:42 am)
check the interior volumes, wheelbase, etc....modern platforms with unibody construction can accomodate 2 wd or 4 wd and various drivetrain combinations....look closely the toyota models and the lexus models...it is hard to dinstugish them apart without badging .....(minus chrome,headlight design etc) I too own a '06 Azzy with 38k miles....bought it new....black on black Limited...will not consider th new Azzy too pricy,,,,will look the new Kia Cadance (????) when it arrives probably $4-$6k less
#68 of 168 Re: Competition [cobrazera]
Mar 01, 2012 (11:09 pm)
The new Azera is base priced very close to the base Genesis but $12k above the Sonata. That surprises me - I think Hyundai is pricing it like a FWD Genesis (almost). In fact, you can get a new 2012 Genesis for $32,900 on truecar.com right now.
Now the Hyundai/Kia marketing gurus are smarter than I am. I believe they are upping the ante on the Azera to make more room for the Cadenza (or whatever name they use for the Kia model) and better differentiate their two makes. Kia also has a quasi-Genesis flagship model coming to the U.S. Dubbed the K9 elsewhere, it will get a new model name when it arrives here within a year.