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#4 of 168 Gas fume problem in Hyundai Grandeur (Azera in the US)
Nov 15, 2011 (7:34 am)
I am an owner of 2011 Hyundai Grandeur (2012 Azera in the US) in Korea. Recently, a significant gas fume problem has been discovered, that is, the gas fume enters the cabin through the trunk space. If a car is driven for several hours at high speed (like 70~80mph), which is a common driving situation using highways in the US, then CO level can go up to 30~40ppm, which could be a significant danger to health. I hope American version fixes this problem, but Hyundai still does not want to recall Grandeur in Korea (what Hyundai is currently doing is providing a temporary solution, which is closing all the holes in the bottom and inside of the rear bumper using plastic stickers and sealant). This is a link to the news article regarding this problem in Korea (I hope you can read Korean :
I read a similar post by one of the Genesis owners in the US. I am not sure if Genesis has a same problem, but it seems so according to this post:
I hope US customers are wise enough when choosing a car.
From an angry hyundai owner in Korea
#6 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [tenpin288]
Nov 17, 2011 (7:51 am)
I'm still not entirely sold on the grill style that Hyundai is using on cars with the "fluidic sculpture" design but I very much like the rest of the body.
293HP from 3.3L w/29MPG highway. It matches the Avalon's economy but provides more power & more power/liter. Hyundai's getting a lot of benefit from their transition to GDI.
The interior lighting accents look overdone in the pics but I'm guessing the effect is more subtle IRL.
#8 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [fushigi]
Nov 18, 2011 (8:08 pm)
I like the grill on the Azera better than the Sonata. They have toned it down a touch in my eyes. The profile of the Azera is closer to an Optima than Sonata and that's a good thing.
The Hyundai website lists a curb weight range as 3,605 to 3,825 lbs. Any idea why the spread is that wide? With only one drivetrain/powertrain available, that seems (220 lbs) unusual.
The Azera could be the entry-level luxury car that Hyundai needs to break into the middle-class, baby-boomer market in a big way.
#9 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [dodgeman07]
Nov 19, 2011 (4:02 am)
Hyundai has had 6 years to break into that middle class, baby boomer market and it hasn't happened yet. It's a great car, but gets no marketing and is pretty much a stealth car - I may see another Azera once a month or so.
IMO, the Sonata will continue to get the marketing and the big sales numbers.....although Azera does have a chance to pick up sales of customers who must have a V6, since Sonata no longer offers one.
#10 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [dodgeman07]
Nov 19, 2011 (9:34 am)
On the weight, my guess is that's a "world" weight range and allows for powertrains that aren't going to be offered in the US. Then there are options like the sunroof.
I checked the Sonata's specs & Hyundai's shows it weighing anywhere from 3161 (GLS w/MT) to 3452 (2.0T w/AT and I presume gobs of features).
WRT to cobrazera's marketing concerns, now that Hyundai is more established & moving up the ranks in the US, perhaps they'll spread some marketing money to the new Azera. I'm sure they will at least when they new car is released to dealers, but after that IDK. After all there's only so much to go around & they offer 6 sedans: Accent, Elantra, Sonata, Azera, Genesis, and Equus. There's a lot of overlap as you move from car to car.
#11 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [cobrazera]
Nov 19, 2011 (1:08 pm)
The current generation Azera is a nice car. Hyundai spent the last few years upgrading every model, so this new Azera might be the one that knocks the door down on a lucrative class that includes the Toyota Camry XLE V6, Honda Accord EX-L V6, and Buick Lacrosse CXS.
After seeing this image, it appears much of the 220 lb spread in the 2012 model's curb weight goes into the huge glass roof.
#12 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [dodgeman07]
Nov 19, 2011 (2:46 pm)
Where in the car do they hide the interior cover for that glass?!...
#13 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [gamleged]
Nov 19, 2011 (7:30 pm)
It's a split cover; half comes out from the front & half from the rear. In the Azera promotional video they show it opening.