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Hyundai Azera, Sedan
#11 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [cobrazera]
Nov 19, 2011 (12:08 pm)
The current generation Azera is a nice car. Hyundai spent the last few years upgrading every model, so this new Azera might be the one that knocks the door down on a lucrative class that includes the Toyota Camry XLE V6, Honda Accord EX-L V6, and Buick Lacrosse CXS.
After seeing this image, it appears much of the 220 lb spread in the 2012 model's curb weight goes into the huge glass roof.
#12 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [dodgeman07]
Nov 19, 2011 (1:46 pm)
Where in the car do they hide the interior cover for that glass?!...
#13 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [gamleged]
Nov 19, 2011 (6:30 pm)
It's a split cover; half comes out from the front & half from the rear. In the Azera promotional video they show it opening.
#14 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [dodgeman07]
Nov 20, 2011 (6:00 am)
wrong class Azera is classed as a LARGE sedan; those you mentioned are mid sized offerings only a few Large sedans in the US that aren't lux Chevy Impala, Toy Avalon, and big Caddy....there's the usual Euro?Asian suspects that still make Large sedans ...M-B, Audi, VW, Jag, RR, Bentley, Porsche ,Lexus, Infiniti
#15 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [jamazera]
Nov 20, 2011 (9:30 am)
Most people shop by market class such as "Family-size sedans", not EPA-size class. The Sonota and Elantra are technically mid-size and large respectively but their market-classes are compact and mid-size.
Models are cross-shopped all the time. A bit more definitive is Luxury vs Mainstream and even those models are cross-shopped a la ES350 versus a loaded Camry XLE V6. Just as an Azera will compete will a loaded Sonota Turbo.
The Azera has the size and weight (and hopefully price) to land the middle-class baby boomers that want a full-size, refined sedan.
#16 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [dodgeman07]
Nov 21, 2011 (3:30 am)
It's hard to imagine anyone trying to decide between a Sonata turbo and an Azera. Totally different focus on those two cars. One a somewhat coarse midsize performance sedan with a turbo 4, and the other a refined 6 cylinder touring car.
BTW, my son has a Sonata turbo and the advertised horses are just not there unless premium gas is used - it does return over 35 MPG highway on regular gas, though.
#17 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [cobrazera]
Nov 21, 2011 (9:26 am)
I was using a high end Sonata and the Azera as examples. I'm certain some will cross shop them but I see your point.
A friend of mine bought a Lexus ES350 with the two other models considered being Toyotas, a Camry XLE V6 and an Avalon.
Your observation regarding the Sonata Turbo are similar to my thoughts. The Azera is more my speed and when I saw the curb weight of the new Azera - I was surprised in a good way. It should drive and feel like a substantial vehicle.
#18 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [cobrazera]
Nov 21, 2011 (10:49 am)
I agree also...2 different cars for 2 different markets using premium sucks
#19 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [fushigi]
Dec 21, 2011 (2:58 pm)
From the pics and videos that I have seen so far, I can't wait until February to trade in my '07 Azzy.
Not saying that there is anything wrong with mine...72,000 miles and still not a rattle in it. This is definitely the best car I have had in many years!
#20 of 168 Re: 2012 US spec Azera revealed! [jamazera]
Dec 22, 2011 (2:18 am)
In regard to Sonata Turbos requiring premium gas to attain the advertised horses.......with premium gas at $.20 higher than regular, it becomes more of a bargain, percentage wise, as gas prices increase. Some stations around here are starting to charge more than that $.20 for premium, but there are still some where the price is holding. My truck requires 89 octane, it will run fine on 87, but then the power and fuel economy is down - enough so that I use the higher octane stuff.
The Sonata Turbo will probably return better economy on premium, and if that offsets the added per gallon cost, then the added power becomes a bonus.