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#267 of 296 A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) by backy

Jan 09, 2012 (8:03 am)

Finally it looks like Dodge will offer a competitive compact in the new Dart:
 
http://wot.motortrend.com/2012-detroit-2013-dodge-dart-aims-for-small-car-bulls-- - eye-starts-at-15995-154353.html
 
Looks like quite an improvement over the Caliber! American style (hints of Focus in there IMO) with Alfa Romeo underpinnings.
 
And I love that Dodge brought back the old Dart name. That was a nice compact in its day, with the ol' reliable Slant Six.

#268 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [backy] by m6user

Jan 09, 2012 (9:47 am)

Replying to: backy (Jan 09, 2012 8:03 am)
And no CVT which is a plus too IMO.

#269 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [backy] by bpizzuti

Jan 11, 2012 (2:34 pm)

Replying to: backy (Jan 09, 2012 8:03 am)
No hatch = fail. I can understand not going hatch-only, doing that with the Caliber was dumb. But more people are wanting the option, and it's not like it would have taken that much effort as long as they were grafting a trunk on.

#270 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [bpizzuti] by backy

Jan 11, 2012 (8:41 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 11, 2012 2:34 pm)
No hatch = fail.
 
Compacts like the Cruze, Elantra (new design), and Sentra seem to be selling pretty well w/o a hatch variant. Personally I prefer a hatch, but for those looking for a compact sedan, the Dart gives them what looks like another good option--a better option than Dodge offered in the recent past. Which was... uh... nothing!

#271 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [backy] by bpizzuti

Jan 12, 2012 (7:44 pm)

Replying to: backy (Jan 11, 2012 8:41 pm)
Yeah but the car that it's based on STARTED OFF as a hatch. They grafted a trunk on to bring it to the US but left the hatch back in Europe. That's literally walking away from potential sales.

#272 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [bpizzuti] by backy

Jan 12, 2012 (8:25 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 12, 2012 7:44 pm)
There's always the option of bringing the hatch later... ala Cruze and Elantra. I think both Chevy and Hyundai are planning on hatch or wagon versions in the USA in the not too distant future.
 
But now there's yet another sedan-only compact coming this spring--the Acura ILX. Looks pretty slick. Supposed to compete with the likes of the Verano:
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2013-acura-ilx-concept-photos-and-info-news

#273 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [backy] by bpizzuti

Jan 13, 2012 (7:07 am)

Replying to: backy (Jan 12, 2012 8:25 pm)
Chevy? Bring a HATCH? From the company that thinks the Constitution says "Thou shalt not buy a hatchback?"
 
The Elantra doesn't have a hatch version here. The Elantra Touring is a different model entirely (though it shares some components with the last-gen Elantra). And I'd really like to get out of mine.

#274 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [bpizzuti] by backy

Jan 13, 2012 (6:01 pm)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 13, 2012 7:07 am)
Have you seen the Chevy Sonic... HATCH?
 
Yes, I said the new Elantra does not currently have a hatch here. I said that there are rumors one is coming. Also rumors that Chevy will bring the Cruze hatch (available in other countries) here.

#275 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [backy] by puffin1

Jan 13, 2012 (6:57 pm)

Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2012 6:01 pm)
I 30 Elantra Touring Limited HB specs and features are on Auto,Express. They have An I10and I20 also. inthe UK.
  I hope we get the I 30.

#276 of 296 Re: A competitive compact from Dodge (finally!) [backy] by bpizzuti

Jan 14, 2012 (6:07 am)

Replying to: backy (Jan 13, 2012 6:01 pm)
Have you seen the Chevy Sonic... HATCH?
 
Have you seen any other...HATCHES? The Sonic is the only one, and I'm wondering what the product mix they're building is, particularly compared to demand. Every time they're asked they say they're not going to bring the Cruze hatch here, and Americans don't buy hatches. Guess they forgot to tell all of those Focus and Fiesta hatch buyers...or the Fit hatch buyers...or the Impreza hatch buyers, or the Mazda3 and Mazda2 hatch buyers....

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