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#69 of 142 Re: hidden messages [samm43] by steve_ HOST

Mar 04, 2011 (8:13 am)

Replying to: samm43 (Mar 04, 2011 6:49 am)
I don't get it.

#70 of 142 Re: hidden messages [steve_] by samm43

Mar 04, 2011 (8:31 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 04, 2011 8:13 am)
The North American Malibu, being crunched by a Hyundai (Korean) branded large semi-truck trailer.

#71 of 142 Re: hidden messages [samm43] by steve_ HOST

Mar 04, 2011 (8:43 am)

Replying to: samm43 (Mar 04, 2011 8:31 am)
Seems like a stretch to me. Maybe Hyundai was the only outfit willing to donate a semi trailer to the NHTSA. You could just as easily say someone wanted to make Hyundai look bad by showing how easily the crash bar hanging down from the back of the trailer fails.
 
I didn't even know what kind of sedan it was until I noticed the stenciling on the door. Didn't notice the mudflats either - I was focused on the passenger compartment.

#72 of 142 Re: hidden messages [samm43] by juxta

Mar 04, 2011 (11:29 am)

Replying to: samm43 (Mar 04, 2011 8:31 am)
Neither my wife nor I noticed but there's no way I'd believe only a Hyundai trailer would be the problem unless they tested many trailers. All I could think about was that I didn't want to be in that car.
 
IIHS just put the video on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT3G-kcKN70

#73 of 142 Re: hidden messages [juxta] by samm43

Mar 04, 2011 (11:49 am)

Replying to: juxta (Mar 04, 2011 11:29 am)
there's no way I'd believe only a Hyundai trailer would be the problem
 
Oh of course. I don't think Hyundai even makes trailers. Sorry. I know now my post was misunderstood. A few emoticons might have helped it.
 
Sam

#74 of 142 Re: hidden messages [samm43] by steve_ HOST

Mar 04, 2011 (2:16 pm)

Replying to: samm43 (Mar 04, 2011 11:49 am)
Hyundai makes lots of stuff - big ships, elevators, etc. So I wouldn't be surprised to see trailers with their name on them.
 
Oh, for the good old days:
 
Video: "Killed Myself When I Was Young" Compilation of Vintage Crashes (Straightline)

#75 of 142 Re: hidden messages [steve_] by 0patience

Mar 04, 2011 (8:14 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 04, 2011 2:16 pm)
Yep, hyundai makes trailers and containers.
One thing about that picture is the fact that trailers are now required to have impact barriers that extend down to prevent cars from doing what it shows in that picture.
Each trailer and semitrailer with a gross vehicle weight rating of 4,536 kg (10,000 pounds) or more, and manufactured on or after January 26, 1998, must be equipped with a rear impact guard that meets the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 223 (49 CFR 571.223) in effect at the time the vehicle was manufactured.
 
One of the problems with some commercial trailers is that the impact guards are often already bent from a previous impact. Enforcement of rules that are already in place is what is needed.

#76 of 142 Re: hidden messages [0patience] by steve_ HOST

Mar 04, 2011 (8:40 pm)

Replying to: 0patience (Mar 04, 2011 8:14 pm)
Isn't that the trailer's impact barrier bent under the trailer in the Malibu photo though? The story at the link says "Under-ride guards on tractor-trailers often fail in crashes".
 
My guess is that the current impact barriers don't help much, even when they aren't bent. Any idea how all those formulas at the CFR line translate to approximate speeds?

#77 of 142 Re: real training and testing for driver licensing [nippononly] by chinaauto

Mar 12, 2011 (6:43 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Dec 29, 2010 11:29 pm)
that's right, we need to see the changes!

#78 of 142 Re: hidden messages [juxta] by tcoop15

Mar 14, 2011 (11:11 am)

Replying to: juxta (Mar 04, 2011 11:29 am)
That video is crazy. Wow, thanks for sharing-good post.

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