Truly safe?

142 messages,  Last post on Mar 01, 2013 at 4:17 PM

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What is this discussion about? Child Passenger Safety, Crash Test Ratings, Safe Driving, Safety Technology, Legislation

#131 of 142 hiding the ball by steve_ HOST

Feb 23, 2013 (7:43 am)

"Informal investigations — where weeks or months can go by before potential problems are brought to the public's attention — are becoming more common. And that has ramifications for car buyers, who may not learn the vehicles they own or are considering buying have quietly raised safety concerns at NHTSA and among automakers."
 
'Secret' informal car defect probes more common (Detroit Free Press)

#132 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [steve_] by gagrice

Feb 23, 2013 (7:53 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 23, 2013 7:43 am)
I don't think you can pick any Federal agency that is doing their job protecting US. The FDA is inspecting less than 5% of the seafood coming into the US from sewers in China.
 
My take is the Federal Government and its too many agencies are overpaid, bloated and lazy fiefdoms.

#133 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [gagrice] by fintail

Feb 23, 2013 (9:12 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 23, 2013 7:53 am)
That's not just your take, that's truth for the most part. And connected supposed private industries too....ahem...insurance, etc.
 
I trust the Euro nanny orgs more when it comes to safety.

#134 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [fintail] by gagrice

Feb 23, 2013 (9:23 am)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 23, 2013 9:12 am)
Any industry that is protected by the Federal Government become bloated, insurance, banking and now the auto industry, GM, Fiskers,Tesla etc

#135 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [gagrice] by fintail

Feb 23, 2013 (11:18 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Feb 23, 2013 9:23 am)
Also oil, defense contractors, the prison industry, et al.
 
But on topic, I don't have a huge amount of faith in the gubbamint when it comes to automotive safety concerns. I guess I should be reassured that seatbelts are mandatory equipment.

#136 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [fintail] by roadburner

Feb 23, 2013 (11:35 am)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 23, 2013 11:18 am)
But on topic, I don't have a huge amount of faith in the gubbamint when it comes to automotive safety concerns.
 
The emphasis has shifted from "safety" to "protect the most inept and clueless brain-dead idiot from the consequences of his moronic actions- no matter what the cost"

#137 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [fintail] by steve_ HOST

Feb 23, 2013 (11:55 am)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 23, 2013 11:18 am)
If you read my link, you may have noticed our old friend Sean Kane of SRS being quoted - the outfit that supports trial lawyers that got so much press over Toyota's SUA issues. Over the decades the suits and threats of suits have likely done more for implementing consumer protection stuff like seat belts and air bags than Consumers Union/Consumers Reports or the feds.
 
SRS is back pushing for tire aging standards most recently (and giving Ray LaHood a "rousing" send-off).

#138 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [steve_] by gagrice

Feb 23, 2013 (12:06 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 23, 2013 11:55 am)
Lawsuits over bogus EPA mileage figures have done more than anything to keep the auto makers honest. Now how do we keep the EPA honest? Thankfully that worthless Steven Chu is gone. I think he was sniffing or drinking ethanol.

#139 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [roadburner] by fintail

Feb 23, 2013 (1:31 pm)

Replying to: roadburner (Feb 23, 2013 11:35 am)
Exactly. Fail safe stuff for people with a Starbucks in one hand and an iphone in the other. I am surprised there haven't been movements to ban manuals and motorcycles.
 
I guess it makes sense though, seeing what is able to pass a licensing exam these days.

#140 of 142 Re: hiding the ball [steve_] by fintail

Feb 23, 2013 (1:33 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 23, 2013 11:55 am)
That reminds me, tax refund is in the bank, the Clinton-era tires on the fintail get to be replaced.
 
The lawyers have probably done a lot to make safety tech mandatory, but I think the automakers were working on it beforehand. Last thing we need to do is support ambulance chasers
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