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#35 of 44 Re: Re Ford C max energi [davemco3] by hof

Dec 03, 2012 (11:34 am)

Replying to: davemco3 (Dec 03, 2012 10:51 am)
On a lease, there are three ways that they can deal (1) trade-in allowance; (2) cost factor/ leasing factor (like the interest rate), and (3) the residual value. What kind of rate and residual did you get? How did that compare to the non-Energi C-max?

#36 of 44 Re: Re Ford C max energi [hof] by cshelley

Dec 03, 2012 (1:00 pm)

Replying to: hof (Dec 03, 2012 11:34 am)
I should probably just let Mr Liu respond, but here's a discussion of the sale on C-MaxChat's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/CMaxChat/posts/563136167036493?comment_id=119061664&not- - if_t=share_comment

#37 of 44 Re: Re Ford C max energi [hof] by sliu777

Dec 03, 2012 (6:55 pm)

Replying to: hof (Dec 03, 2012 11:34 am)
I didn't lease, I bought it financed thru my credit union. Also I didn't have a trade in for my neighbor wants to purchase my 1993 Acura Legend Coupe L.

#38 of 44 The good, bad, and ugly on the C Max by deltaromeo

Dec 19, 2012 (10:38 am)

Just picked up a new C Max SE. Have had a Prius for 22 months as a comparison.
 
The Good: C Max performs very well on dry roads. Out performs the Prius. More powerful than the Prius. Brakes OK, but Prius may have a slight edge. Road noise not an issue, but is a major problem in the Prius. C Max handles very well in high winds as does the Prius. A lot more extras as compared to Prius models. The C Max sound system is outstanding with the Equipment Group 202A (MyFord touch & Sirius package). Highly recommend this. In storage space the Prius has the edge. Settings easier to read than on the Prius. The out of date LCD format on Prius is a major problem, but the C Max has LED or other bright formats.
 
The bad: Some of the gauges and setups take some getting used to. Maybe not just as user friendly as the Prius, but not a deal breaker. No spare - I repeat no spare tire. Window tint essentially non-existent. You will have to spend $244-279 bucks to make it right.
 
The ugly: 23 mpg during hard city driving. 36 mpg on highway with conservative driving by a well experienced Prius driver. If you are truly interested in a green hybrid that gets 47 mpg (as advertised), then this is a deal breaker. This is a first use experience. Will give interval update.

#39 of 44 Re: The good, bad, and ugly on the C Max [deltaromeo] by hotpotato

Apr 01, 2013 (3:23 pm)

Replying to: deltaromeo (Dec 19, 2012 10:38 am)
My experience is similar to yours.
 
I have a C-Max hybrid as my personal car and a Prius as a company car.
 
A C-Max is heavier, taller, wider, and considerably more powerful than a Prius V, so physics dictates that it won't get better mileage--but surprisingly it doesn't do much worse either, with owners of both reporting numbers in the high-30s to low-40s range on Fuelly.com and fueleconomy.gov. The Prius Liftback will out-MPG either one all day long, of course.
 
I find the Prius dashboard computer estimated MPG about as realistic and accurate as the C-Max's EPA estimated MPG--that is, absurdly optimistic vs actual calculated MPG. (The C-Max's computer is pretty accurate.)
 
Personally I wonder if Ford erred in positioning this car against any Prius, because to some degree the cars appeal to different people. I respect the Prius for its mileage supremacy, but don't like the compromises it makes to eke out those last few MPG (in acceleration, handling, road noise). In short, I like to drive, and the Prius doesn't. The C-Max drives like a German entry-luxury sedan, gets the MPG of a flyweight Honda Fit, and swallows cargo and dogs like a Mazda 5 minivan. For me, that's the sweet spot.

#40 of 44 Re: The good, bad, and ugly on the C Max [deltaromeo] by deltaromeo

Apr 18, 2013 (5:22 pm)

Replying to: deltaromeo (Dec 19, 2012 10:38 am)
Follow up on 2013 C Max SE. There have been a few minor problems that were easily taken care of by the local dealer. Passing 5,000 miles, overall MPG is 37.3. This is with very careful driving with a light foot and lots of coasting.
Ford dealer has no explanation and was of no help regarding the mileage.
 
At this 4 month interval my conclusion based on the experience of one C Max: If you are planning to purchase the C Max to get 47 MPG, you will most likely be disappointed. If you just want a good little hybrid that is fun to drive and gets fairly good mileage, then consider the C Max. The Prius is still the hybrid gold standard for MPG, but Ford is definitely in the ball game.

#41 of 44 Re: Ford C-MAX [early74b] by edmondford

Jun 15, 2013 (2:12 pm)

Replying to: early74b (Oct 23, 2012 6:36 am)
Hi there was woundering since yoy get $3750 on federal taxes, how much would you get for state of illinois taxes on return

#42 of 44 Re: Ford C-MAX [edmondford] by early74b

Jun 16, 2013 (7:34 am)

Replying to: edmondford (Jun 15, 2013 2:12 pm)
Also being from IL, I can share with you that unfortunately the C-Max Energi (the version with the plug-in battery, not just the 'regular' non plug-in Hybrid model) does NOT qualify under the IL EPA program due to the fact (again, these are the IL EPA rules) that it has a 'regular' internal combustion engine along with a battery pack versus something like the Chevy Volt whose gas engine is actually a generator that powers up the battery while doing its backup duties. You can find more information on what cars are eligible on the IL Green Fleets site at:
 
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We currently own a Nissan LEAF which is 100% electric so we received a $3,725 cash rebate (the rebate is 10% of MSRP up to $4K), no tax return is necessary to get it. Another agency in IL also offers a 50% rebate on the equip + install of an EVSE (the 240V connection for faster than 120V charging) as well. The C-Max Energi has a fairly small battery so many go without putting in a charger.
 
On last thing about the IL EPA rebates, they're for purchased not leased cars unlike the Fed Tax Credit which could be applied against the lease or taken as a tax credit after you file your tax return. Believe me, we checked out all the angles before hand --- IL also has special 'EL' plates for $18/yr but only for 100% electric cars.
 
The C-Max (either version) was a possibility for us but the battery version simply lost too much storage space versus the hybrid and we found those 2nd row seats too hard and uncomfortable. For a couple, who doesn't need extra space and carry many people its not a bad commuter ... if you drive very short distances the Energi model would do well on 100% electric but it's pricey for what you get IMO.
 
As we'll be in the market for another short trip (30 mile r/t) car that would replace a smart fortwo coupe we're hopeful the 100% electric version will be coming to IL soon as well as the Fiat 500e and BMW i3 but as always, electric cars have be slow to come to IL so we need to be patient.

#43 of 44 2013 Ford C-Max Hybrid Real World MPG Update by hof

Jun 16, 2013 (6:57 pm)

I've had my 2013 C-MAX SE Hybrid for three months now, about 2,300 miles total I went from May 8 to June 8 on one tank of gas, about 560 miles. I might have made it to 600 if I ran on fumes. My observed MPG peaked right at 46.7 MPG right before I started using air conditioning regularly. With the air conditioning, it has dropped a couple of MPG and is more variable. My lifetime MPG just hit 43.0 and is still climbing. This is 80% city driving. If much of your driving is interstate highway over 65 MPH, especially over 70 MPH, the C-Max isn't the car for you. At that speed, there are many cars that will do as well, and something like the Volkswagen Passat GDI will probably do better.

#44 of 44 Hit 40.0 m.p.g. this morning by dweiser

Jun 17, 2013 (7:27 am)

Some will be impressed at that and others will say it isn't exactly 47 m.p.g. but I'm very pleased. Brought the C-Max SE home October 2012 and was getting around 35 m.p.g. here in the mountains of western NC in Winter. I'd traded in a Honda Fit which got around 32 m.p.g. so I was looking to do better even though the C-Max is a nicer vehicle all-around, if more expensive. With the arrival of Spring and warmer temps my mileage started creeping up, about 0.1 every time I went out. Today I was very pleased to reach and arrive home at 40.0 m.p.g. Today's (just today's) trip averaged 50.0 m.p.g.

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