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#5 of 236 Re: 2011 F-150 order [stonesi]
Jan 01, 2011 (9:51 am)
I'll let you know on the pricing, all the dealers are pimping 5500 from the factory on 2010, not much on 2011, I am looking for a price on an extended cab 5.0 4wd, the sticker was around 35k. I am on the fence on he f150, esp if the price isn't right. My neighbor bought a new silverado with the 5.3 extended cab 4wd, z71, the sticker was 35,500, same as the f150 I asked for a price on that is on its way to the dealer so its like ordering from the factory.
He got the 2011 Chevy Silverado LT, 5.3 4wd for 26,900 before his trade, 15/21 mileage thought I have heard as high as 24 unloaded. I like the idea of the 5.0 360hp versus 315, 5.3 but with weight differences between the two it might be a wash then its just a mileage comparo and the chevy will win that.
There is no way the eco boost will be 29 on the highway even 2wd and a stick, I woudl like to see underhood temps on that engine too, I am expecting about 23-24 highway for the ecoboost auto and 4wd, now how much? and how long are the turbos going to last, not mileage as much as mileage plus time.
Bottom line is if the chevys are selling this cheap and there are a good truck,it rode very well, even if its the oldest of the big 3 in design, maybe not quite as good as the ford but 6-7 grand less I am getting a silverado.
#6 of 236 Re: F150 with the 3.5L twin turbo eco boost [n1chu]
Jan 01, 2011 (10:57 am)
"..the EcoBoost is a proven technology.."
Yes, but only if you are a "boy-racer", or are of that mentality.
Any SuperCharged or TurboCharged engine cannot be made to run optimally, FE wise, except ON BOOST. For the majority of the buyers the Ford EcoBoost/TwinForce Gas-Guzzling Gas HOG engines run in detuned/derated mode, sub-optimal compression ratio 99% of the time.
Ford may very well be off in the back room rethinking, as well they should be IMMHO, the overall EcoBoost marketing strategy.
It is clearly a mistake except for certain buyer categories, Mustang, say.
#8 of 236 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost [insuranceguru]
Jan 15, 2011 (3:35 am)
I was also looking to purchase an f-150 with eco-boost. How close to invoice were you able to get on your order?
#9 of 236 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost [fueledup]
Jan 20, 2011 (12:06 pm)
when i sat down with dealer, price was $46k... waiting for deliver to work out rebates and financing... i have looked at other trucks with the same features and they have all been closer to $60k plus rebates.... i think i am getting the most bang for my buck....
i am debating on leasing and buying... weighing heavier on buying due to resale value.... my dealer called yesterday and said that Ford is starting the build.... estimated deliver is end of February beginning of March.... Now I just have to wait...
#10 of 236 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost [insuranceguru]
Jan 21, 2011 (8:43 am)
46k for an F150?? What options are on this truck. I would be looking at Super Duties and the New Chevy HD in that price range, that's way too much for the ecoboost, thats creeping into Diesel territory price wise, the Chevy HD with a Durmax is on the lot for 50k before rebates dealer discounts, you guys must be rich to buy F150's for 46k, my neighbor was right getting a Silverado for 26k lol, no way you will save 20k in gas mileage difference, in fact I bet the 5.3 will get better gas mileage, its down on power to the eco boost, nothing a Air Raid and chip wouldn't fix though for about 500 bucks...
A Supercharger on the 5.3 and its around 450HP to the wheels and get better mileage than the ecoboost for about 7 grand installed.
IN 10 years the eco boost won't be worth more than a few hundred bucks than the average Dodge Ram Hemi or Chevy , might be worth less as reliability concerns over time not just miles driven in a short period of time, wake UP people, stop drinking the Koolaid.
#11 of 236 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost [curt1234]
Jan 21, 2011 (10:27 am)
The more EcoBoost/TwinForce gas-guzzling gas-hog engines Ford sells/ships the lower their FE fleet average declines. Ford wants the positive publicity of the "boy-racer" mentality aspects of BOOSTED engines, but not the fleet average FE declination.
How to solve the riddle...?
Price/option/market limit (FWD ONLY for the 2011 Ford Explorer with the I4 Ecoboost.....a FWD only Ford Explorer SUV...just how UNREAL can this get...?) the EcoBoost versions out of reasonable range of the average purchaser.
#12 of 236 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost [fueledup]
Jan 22, 2011 (11:02 am)
According to the Ford Flex pricing structure you should expect to pay a $6,000 premium for the EcoBoost/TwinForce gas-guzzling gas-hog engine if you choose a lower end F-150 version on which that option is available but as little as $3,000 if you choose a high end F-150 version.
#13 of 236 you should see the whining...
Jan 22, 2011 (3:50 pm)
on a Tundra site regarding the tear down of the 'Torture Test' Ecoboost. It's comical.
There weren't any complaints when the proof of toughness was a truck towing a trailer up a ramp surrounded by fire for 2 minutes.
#14 of 236 Re: Pricing [curt1234]
Jan 22, 2011 (4:10 pm)
Dealer will come about 3500 off sticker on the 5.0, special order the 3.5 and not as much off sticker, he said lets build it and I can tell you the price.. Waiting until the autoshow to see what delas are out there, the Dodge and Chevy are my top two, not sold on ecoBoot.