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#216 of 276 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost [kipk]
Dec 08, 2012 (5:42 am)
#206 of 215 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost
Stay tuned: While were into the first season of putting the Eco boost to the test, I assure you there will be additional threads to provide accurate feedback regarding the Eco Boost's capabilities including the MPG loaded and unloaded.
The goal is to find what rig will adequately pull a 8,000/ 10.000 lb trailer without breaking the bank or spending a fortune in fuel and oil changes.
Due to the spring rates and overall vehicle design towing a fifth wheel may not a good decision, but for the average tow behind... "Campers here we come!"
#217 of 276 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost [harley060107]
Dec 08, 2012 (6:21 am)
Yeah, 1/2 tons in general just don't have the cargo capacity to handle the pin weight. That pretty much limits you to a light 5th wheel.
I don't think I'd want to pull much more than 8k lbs on a regular occasion with any 1/2 ton. That's probably the point where a 3/4 ton is the way to go. Now if you don't tow far a 1/2 ton probably would be fine.
#218 of 276 Re: Ecoboost FX2 [tkevinc1]
Jan 06, 2013 (10:02 am)
I am about to order a F150 ecoboost. In reading the comments about mileage, it looks like I need some information for configuring a max mileage truck that will do little to no towing. When we travel it is on interstate at 75 to 80mph. How can I find the best way to set up the drivetrain?
#219 of 276 Re: Ecoboost FX2 [big_mpg]
Jan 06, 2013 (1:57 pm)
I've been talking to the calibrators as well as development and the fact of the matter is you DON'T need the 373 axle ratio, the 355 is more then adequate. The 373 will provide more towing power but will penalize you at highway speeds. You should be able to tow as well as get good fuel economy even at 70miles per hour with the 355. You'll also want to consider the electric running boards and mirrors when ordering as the electric running boards provide a lower step threshold for entry , however, definitely allow more mud and debris to hit the side body when retracted. Also the maximum trailer tow pkg forces you into the 373 axle and the larger mirrors also have some impact on fuel economy as well as WILL NOT allow you to fit through a 9ft door opening without tilting them in. I've actually tilted mine in for clearance and leaved them there so I can access my garage daily.
I 've also learned the 3.7 engine may take longer than anticipated time for break-in . Anticipate a minimum of 5500 miles during which time your mileage may not meet the projected figures on the window sticker.
It appears from your note you may be considering a two wheel drive platform. Ours is a 4x4 Super Crew which with 373 gears which is a little aggressive. While the bigger mirrors may appeal to some customers, I'd opted to not have them given the choice. As for pulling, it'll do the job!
Oh, by the way, order a set of rear wheel liners, Ford decided they're not required. The cost is a mere $100.00 bill,money well spent.
Feb 07, 2013 (4:21 pm)
The saga continues with the Platinum F150 4x4, short bed crew still only delivering 13.6 city/16.1 highway. Combined mpg averaging a deplorable 13.4 , 3.5 mpg less than the EPA or Ford have projected. This vehicle has accumulated 6800 miles but not without cost. A staggering 300 miles per tank then projected. I'm still awaiting follow-up by Ford engineering but to date, 5 1/2 months and no resolve.
Note: This unit has max trailer tow with the larger mirrors but that IS NOT the root cause.......
#221 of 276 Re: F150 Eco Boost [harley060107]
Feb 12, 2013 (4:54 pm)
Harley, hate that your bummed about your mileage. Research EPA calculations. You will find out that they use a base reg cab eco engine. Highway is 50mph no wind.
I believe it's stated right on the sticker in small print.
#222 of 276 Re: eco boost power delivery problems [rbakerjr]
Feb 13, 2013 (8:01 am)
I A S S U M E that your issues with water ingestion are behind you and that you are now driving without concern. The issue of water ingestion was addressed by a re-flash that should minimize this concern. If you have not had this performed then it would behoove you to take it in for service. There is an update that should minimize this event.
I would, however, be interested in knowing what platform (ie: F150 ,4x4, axle ratio 373, etc.) you are running as well as (what you plan to tow (ie: weight trailer,etc). I am monitoring comments on several forums to see what other owners are experiencing. As for the tranmission event I have heard of another with this same failure mode. Was your transmission issue resolved.?
I agree that the Eco-boost has the muscle in all ranges to do the work but have poor fuel economy numbers to report which leave me grossly disappointed.
Currently driving a Super Crew 4x4 ,with 373 gears can only support 13.8 cty/15.8hwy and average tank to tank fill up of 13.8/14.0 mpg overall.
#223 of 276 Re: 2011 Ford F150 Eco Boost [kipk]
Feb 13, 2013 (8:12 am)
I appreciate your comments and will keep you posted regarding trailer towing as well as fuel economy in all ranges. So far I agree with many comments that the Eco Boost platform will surprise many non believer including many diesel owners but so far I am still challenged with those in several other forums who state they are getting 20/21 hwy with the Super Crew platform and 373 gears.
Having performed many drive ratings on both car and truck platforms, I cannot support claims of 16cty/20.5hwy and am currently engaged in further analysis regarding what distinguishes one Eco- Boost from another that exhibits great fuel economy..
My own SC 4x4 only delivers 13.8cty/15.8hwy with an average tank to tank of 13.8 mpg PERIOD!!
#224 of 276 Re: eco boost power delivery problems [eaglesnest1247]
Feb 13, 2013 (8:24 am)
I have not experienced the problem again...whether it was the recall work I had done or that I haven't driven in the same conditions, I don't know. But, it has performed flawlessly. I don't recall having transmission issues (it's been a while since my original post) but I think everything was related to the truck going into "limp mode". I have the Supercrew, 4x4, 3.31 axle ratio and average 15 mpg combined. My weekly commute is about 200 miles, 25% city, 30% back country roads, 45% highway. I have averaged 19.5 on the interstate at 72 mph. I don't tow anything. I have noted that the trip computer is pretty accurate where my gas mileage was always overstated on my Chrysler products. I hope this helps.
Feb 13, 2013 (9:11 am)
Response and Update
to (dieselone,kipk, mike4474)
While there have been several postings in multiple forums noting great fuel economy with the F150 Eco Boost platform, I believe it's worthy to note that not all owners boast the same results. Even though there were campaign adds (Ford), brochures and EPA publications noting phenomenal mpg projections, it's worth noting you need to fully understand what the drivers are evaluating.
Key to all statistical finds are the platform, trim levels, axle ratio, and habits of each driver. While I too was mesmerized by projections of 15/21 and 17 average overall, all is not what you read.
In anticipation of purchasing a rig that would deliver good fuel economy when used as a casual driver, the plan was to be able to pull a load when the occasion arose. So far the best I've seen city has been 13.8/16.0 hwy with an average tank to tank of 14.0mpg
By all means DO NOT let it idle, DO NOT perform jack rabbit starts, and DO NOT buy inferior fuel. All of these variables will result on poor fuel economy.
To even expect to get (ie 14.0cty/18.0hwy) as you might anticipate out of the average gas platform without turbos is unrealistic. As stated before for those advertising 15/22mpg their not driving a SC 4x4 with a 373 axle and maximum trailer tow package.